Sternhauser Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='08 November 2009 - 01:57 AM' timestamp='1257659847' post='1998102'] [/quote] Look at the poll. Obama has been tried and found guilty by the Court of Insensitivity, and has been sentenced to at least three more years of getting complained about. What more can we, the minority, say about it? ~Sternhauser
cmotherofpirl Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='08 November 2009 - 12:41 PM' timestamp='1257698473' post='1998221'] Look at the poll. Obama has been tried and found guilty by the Court of Insensitivity, and has been sentenced to at least three more years of getting complained about. What more can we, the minority, say about it? ~Sternhauser [/quote] Pray and ask him to mend his ways.
Fidei Defensor Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='08 November 2009 - 12:52 PM' timestamp='1257702749' post='1998242'] Pray and ask him to mend his ways. [/quote] Maybe you should stick to the first thing and not try to debate publicly about it.
Sternhauser Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='08 November 2009 - 01:52 PM' timestamp='1257702749' post='1998242'] Pray and ask him to mend his ways. [/quote] An excellent idea. As a matter of fact, I very was surprised by the number of people suggesting that we pray for Barack Obama's conversion around election time. The idea of praying for Bill Clinton (or George Bush) did not occur to many people as necessary or efficacious (besides the "and let us pray for our 'leaders'" at mass.) ~Sternhauser Edited November 8, 2009 by Sternhauser
Nihil Obstat Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Sternhauser' date='08 November 2009 - 01:44 PM' timestamp='1257709475' post='1998294'] An excellent idea. As a matter of fact, I very was surprised by the number of people suggesting that we pray for Barack Obama's conversion around election time. The idea of praying for Bill Clinton (or George Bush) did not occur to many people as necessary or efficacious (besides the "and let us pray for our 'leaders'" at mass.) ~Sternhauser [/quote] Sometimes it takes a really jarring dose of reality to get us to do what we should be doing all along. Edited November 8, 2009 by Nihil Obstat
afro_john Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) [quote name='fidei defensor' date='08 November 2009 - 02:19 PM' timestamp='1257704349' post='1998247'] Maybe you should stick to the first thing and not try to debate publicly about it. [/quote] What good would that do other than allowing relativism to continue to step on and discredit any view which is not its own? Edited November 8, 2009 by afrojohn
JimR-OCDS Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 Its stuff like this, that the Right complained about, when the Left accused Bush of being insensitive, as he played golf during Hurricane Katrina. Now the Right is doing what they complained about the Left doing. Politics is dirty, which is why I stay Christ centered, and let the political ideologues have their nastiness. Jim
dominicansoul Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='07 November 2009 - 09:21 PM' timestamp='1257646877' post='1997983'] Ask yourself two questions: 1. How many people died in WWI? 2. Why did they die? [/quote] According to the Mother of God at Fatima, war is a punishment for sin. She also warned that if men did not amend their ways, a worse war would be fought in the future (WWII.) In my humble opinion, terrorism is on the rise these days because it is a punishment for the acts of terror we have legalized in the womb...
Sternhauser Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 [quote name='dominicansoul' date='09 November 2009 - 09:35 AM' timestamp='1257773712' post='1998743'] According to the Mother of God at Fatima, war is a punishment for sin. She also warned that if men did not amend their ways, a worse war would be fought in the future (WWII.) In my humble opinion, terrorism is on the rise these days because it is a punishment for the acts of terror we have legalized in the womb... [/quote] I tried responding to you in private message, to keep this thread on topic: talking about praying for Obama. ~Sternhauser
HisChildForever Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' date='08 November 2009 - 01:19 PM' timestamp='1257704349' post='1998247'] Maybe you should stick to the first thing and not try to debate publicly about it. [/quote] Totally! We wouldn't want anyone exercising their right to free speech.
Lil Red Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 +J.M.J.+ [url="http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog/archives/2009/11/why_obama_doesn.html"]What a military wife thinks of Obama[/url] [quote]Tell me something: in a moment of national tragedy is it really too much to expect the President of the United States to forego the "shout outs"? Is it too much ask that he learn the difference between the Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Medal of Honor? What we require from our leaders at times like this is not much, really. No one expects them to actually care. What we want is precisely the kind of thing that comes so effortlessly to Barack Obama: honeyed words and a reassuring show of compassion from a man who thinks that quality is the most important attribute a Supreme Court judge can possess. A public acknowledgment that something grave has happened. But for some reason, asking the Commander in Chief of our armed forces to give even the appearance of empathy was a bridge too far. Americans expect something more from their leaders in times of trouble. We expect grace. Empathy. Inspiration. A sense of solemn gravity that befits the nation's somber mood. When the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded killing 7 astronauts, Ronald Reagan postponed the State of the Union report to address and assuage the nation's shock and mourning. Barack Obama, on the other hand, gave us shout outs.[/quote] [url="http://www.luoamerican.com/baldilocks/2009/11/a-commanderinchief-visits-the-fort-hood-wounded.html"]and a commander-in-chief goes to visit the wounded.[/url] too bad it wasn't the current commander-in-chief.
Fidei Defensor Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 [quote name='afrojohn' date='08 November 2009 - 04:40 PM' timestamp='1257716429' post='1998374'] What good would that do other than allowing relativism to continue to step on and discredit any view which is not its own? [/quote] Are you saying prayer is worthless? [quote name='HisChildForever' date='09 November 2009 - 10:11 AM' timestamp='1257779476' post='1998761'] Totally! We wouldn't want anyone exercising their right to free speech. [/quote] It's a two way street, my dearest sugar lump honey cakes.
HisChildForever Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) [quote name='fidei defensor' date='09 November 2009 - 12:12 PM' timestamp='1257786762' post='1998817'] It's a two way street, my dearest sugar lump honey cakes. [/quote] Of course, my little sweet gingerbread cookie. You can be as impatient as you want with Catholics on a Catholic forum, but in no way should we be impatient with crooked liberals (i.e. Obama), you butterscotch darling you. Edited November 9, 2009 by HisChildForever
Didacus Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 Maybe he should do something about his insensitivity?! But then again, we don't call him Obamasquat for nothing - oh wait, we do call him that because of the nothing he's accomplished. *start humming the rock and roll tune of 'superfreak'* Obamasquat!!! Obamasquat!!! He's an Obamasquat!!!
Fidei Defensor Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='09 November 2009 - 12:21 PM' timestamp='1257787306' post='1998820'] Of course, my little sweet gingerbread cookie. You can be as impatient as you want with Catholics on a Catholic forum, but in no way should we be impatient with crooked liberals (i.e. Obama), you butterscotch darling you. [/quote] I love gingerbread!
dominicansoul Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Sternhauser' date='09 November 2009 - 09:49 AM' timestamp='1257778187' post='1998755'] I tried responding to you in private message, to keep this thread on topic: talking about praying for Obama. ~Sternhauser [/quote] After reading all your posts about WWI, I thought I would answer your question...Our Lady's answer is simple enough... ...sin is what causes war...sin caused WWI, WWII, Korean, Vietnam, and all the wars we have battled in the Middle East from "Operation Desert Storm" to the present war we are in now... My comment is relative to the topic...we will continue to suffer these kinds of terrorist attacks, because we are causing suffering to the most defenseless individual, the child in the womb. How can our nation dare to think that we can get away with that? How can we dare to believe that there are no ramifications for legalizing murder? Terrorism will continue to rise, and we will have to suffer with having an extremely insensitive president who doesn't understand that peace begins in the womb... Indeed we must pray for our president, but also for each other...the good will suffer along with the bad...we all face the consequences of our nation's sin... Edited November 9, 2009 by dominicansoul
Sternhauser Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 (edited) [quote name='dominicansoul' date='09 November 2009 - 03:20 PM' timestamp='1257794444' post='1998920'] After reading all your posts about WWI, I thought I would answer your question...Our Lady's answer is simple enough... ...sin is what causes war...sin caused WWI, WWII, Korean, Vietnam, and all the wars we have battled in the Middle East from "Operation Desert Storm" to the present war we are in now... My comment is relative to the topic...we will continue to suffer these kinds of terrorist attacks, because we are causing suffering to the most defenseless individual, the child in the womb. How can our nation dare to think that we can get away with that? How can we dare to believe that there are no ramifications for legalizing murder? Terrorism will continue to rise, and we will have to suffer with having an extremely insensitive president who doesn't understand that peace begins in the womb... Indeed we must pray for our president, but also for each other...the good will suffer along with the bad...we all face the consequences of our nation's sin... [/quote] All right. Pray for Obama. Next: Yes. Sin is ultimately the cause of all violence and war. Our Lady promised an even greater war than the Great War if men did not turn from their sins. Then came WWII. Men weren't butchering babies in 1917. Torture was not widely accepted by Catholics. World War III will be unlike anything ever witnessed by the world. Second: individual cult/Islam based terrorism is not on the rise. Such terrorism was on the rise in the 1970's. The only terrorism on the rise now is State terrorism. Third: no nation, not even "our" nation, sins. A nation is a group of people who believe in the same things. My nation is the Catholic Church. Again. No nation sins. Individuals sin. We'll all suffer as a result, but we are not all guilty of the horrible sins so many individuals are responsible for. Terrorism by a few maniacs is not what you should be worrying about, if you feel the need to worry. We're in for a much more organized system of terrorism right here in this geographical region, orchestrated by the State. You won't recognize this as the place you were born. I don't care who thinks I am nuts. The next 20 years will vindicate me. As Gerald Celente says, "Current events form future trends." ~Sternhauser Edited November 10, 2009 by Sternhauser
Lounge Daddy Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='10 November 2009 - 07:19 PM' timestamp='1257895195' post='1999907'] ... The only terrorism on the rise now is State terrorism. ... [/quote] Yes!
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