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[IcePrincessKRS]

[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Apr 7 2004, 10:21 AM'] Rio Grande Valley, in tha house!



(Is my slang unfashionable? You all will have to help me, because the last time I had a command of hip hop slang was when Arsenio Hall was still on the air.) [/quote]
:rotfl:

[IcePrincessKRS]

Just (and Jason and Magi) you are in my prayers. It takes alot of guts to come out and say the things you did. Props and prayer.

[Bruce S]

[quote]Hey now! Opus Dei rocks! Seriously, if anyone thinks that they are a fringe group in The Church, take a look at what they believe. [/quote]

Not every Catholic agrees with that statement, some have some really serious problems with OD, and they were mostly MEMBERS of OD.

[quote]

Beyond the Threshold traces Tapia's journey
from her first attraction to Opus Dei while working
at the Council of Scientific Research in Madrid,
Spain, to her virtual imprisonment at the.
organization's headquarters in Rome in 1965-
1966, a nightmare that culminated in her forced
request for release from her obligations to "The
Work."
[b]Tapia served for almost five years as personal
secretary to the founder of Opus Dei, Msgr. José
María Escrivá,[/b] and for nine years as regional director
of the Women's Branch of Venezuela.
The view we get of Opus Dei in this account
is that of a full member who served in the internal
administration of the organization. It is the view,
furthermore, of a disillusioned former member
who stresses the sect-like characteristics of an institution
she has come to view as a "church within
the Church."

[url="http://users2.ev1.net/~origins/opusdei/opusbook97.pdf"]http://users2.ev1.net/~origins/opusdei/opusbook97.pdf[/url][/quote]

[b]Now OD has millions of great people, God loving people, [/b]BUT...

One needs to be aware, that the bestseller book, by Brown, showed a side of OD that up till now, has never been seen, and one needs perspective on all things...all things.

[url="http://www.odan.org/"]http://www.odan.org/[/url]

Edited April 7, 2004 by Bruce S

[MagiDragon]

[quote name='Bruce S' date='Apr 7 2004, 04:17 PM']Not every Catholic agrees with that statement, some have some really serious problems with OD, and they were mostly MEMBERS of OD.

[url="http://www.odan.org/"]http://www.odan.org/[/url][/quote]
I challenge you to find *one* thing that all 'Catholics' agree with. Now if we would eliminate it to good Catholics, then we might have a chance . . .

I looked at that website and I think it's rather inaccurate:

[quote]In Catholic Sects: Opus Dei, Alberto Moncada says, "Members are practically forbidden to read anything but specialized professional literature without the superiors' permission, and even professional matters are ideologically tinted. Recently a numerary who had to read the Communist Manifesto because of his studies, was provided with an expurgated version. The organization's Index of Forbidden Books is longer than the Church's abolished version."[/quote]

This is downright wrong. They are encouraged to read. Granted, what they are encouraged to read is predominantly spiritual reading, but did you expect something else from a religious group?

The minute that something includes the words 'in Catholic Sects' you know that it's not been put forth from a Catholic perspective.

I can't completely refute the website. I don't know how much of it was accurate, but i doubt that there was very much substance to any of the claims.

I don't intend to look into it any more, because I personally know some of these guys, and I know them to be incredibly good people.

Now, Bruce, go look at what they teach. I've looked at what you found to demonize them, look at what they teach themselves:
[url="http://www.opusdei.org/"]http://www.opusdei.org/[/url]