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John Paul Ii Engaged In Corporal Mortification


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[quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='30 November 2009 - 12:05 PM' timestamp='1259607930' post='2012048']
Being no one actually saw John Paul II actually do corporal punishment, but there are only those who assume that what they heard is what he was doing, for all we know, he was merely working out.


Jim
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I think that is the weirdest response that could possibly be made to this thread.

Posted

If John Paul II did perform acts of corporal mortification it is a private matter between him and God.

Saint Therese
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That's an interesting comment since types and number of physcial mortifications are almost always included in hagiography.

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[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='24 November 2009 - 07:51 PM' timestamp='1259110260' post='2008829']
+1

I want to buy everyone in this thread a copy of [i]Iota Unum[/i] for Christmas. :smokey:
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:smokey:

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[quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='30 November 2009 - 11:05 AM' timestamp='1259607930' post='2012048']
Being no one actually saw John Paul II actually do corporal punishment, but there are only those who assume that what they heard is what he was doing, for all we know, he was merely working out.


Jim
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John Paul II was a pretty cool guy, but i am having some serious trouble envisioning him rocking out on a Bowflex.

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[quote name='Jesus_lol' date='30 November 2009 - 05:46 PM' timestamp='1259621174' post='2012167']
John Paul II was a pretty cool guy, but i am having some serious trouble envisioning him rocking out on a Bowflex.
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He was quite a sportsman in his youth.

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[quote name='Era Might' date='30 November 2009 - 04:04 PM' timestamp='1259622285' post='2012185']
He was quite a sportsman in his youth.
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Well being athletic, like he was, and working out for the sake of working out are very different things.

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[quote name='Jesus_lol' date='30 November 2009 - 06:46 PM' timestamp='1259621174' post='2012167']
John Paul II was a pretty cool guy, but i am having some serious trouble envisioning him rocking out on a Bowflex.
[/quote]

Well, he was an athletic sort. He did mountain climbing and skiing.

You have to stay in shape for those activities.

Jim

Laudate_Dominum
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[quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='30 November 2009 - 02:05 PM' timestamp='1259607930' post='2012048']
Being no one actually saw John Paul II actually do corporal punishment, but there are only those who assume that what they heard is what he was doing, for all we know, he was merely working out.


Jim
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:sweat:

Not sure if you were joking or not but this put a funny image in my mind so lulz. :lol:

Laudate_Dominum
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[quote name='Jesus_lol' date='30 November 2009 - 05:46 PM' timestamp='1259621174' post='2012167']
John Paul II was a pretty cool guy, but i am having some serious trouble envisioning him rocking out on a Bowflex.
[/quote]
+1 haha, I was imagining something like that too. lol. Anyway, I'm sure the mortification hypothesis is a better fit with the evidence. haha.

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[quote name='Era Might' date='24 November 2009 - 09:00 AM' timestamp='1259067648' post='2008502']
The point to keep in mind is that John Paul's penances, whatever they were, were [i]private[/i]. His life didn't revolve around penances, nor did he try to push his penances onto other people. So my response to this story is, "Oh, interesting." That's it.
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I agree. Personal corpral penance should be between an individual and God. I believe [b][i]as long as the sanctity of the body is remembered and respected during this form of prayer[/i][/b], it is alright. Allowing ourselves to become uncomfortable everyonce and awhile reminds us of how Christ became so small that he sunk to humiliation for the sake of us.

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[quote name='Guadalupe84' date='01 December 2009 - 02:14 PM' timestamp='1259694845' post='2012610']
I agree. Personal corpral penance should be between an individual and God. I believe [b][i]as long as the sanctity of the body is remembered and respected during this form of prayer[/i][/b], it is alright. Allowing ourselves to become uncomfortable everyonce and awhile reminds us of how Christ became so small that he sunk to humiliation for the sake of us.
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Said like a true soldier. You get rep. +1

PS: Welcome to the pham!

Edited by mommas_boy
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[quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='30 November 2009 - 02:05 PM' timestamp='1259607930' post='2012048']
Being no one actually saw John Paul II actually do corporal punishment, but there are only those who assume that what they heard is what he was doing, for all we know, he was merely working out.


Jim
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Maybe he was practicing how to cross-check heretics with his hockey stick?

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[quote name='Norseman82' date='03 December 2009 - 03:15 PM' timestamp='1259867733' post='2013858']
Maybe he was practicing how to cross-check heretics with his hockey stick?
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Well compared to some of the nonsense people like to believe, its would be more believable that he was making slap shots. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_grin.gif[/img]

Jim

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[quote name='Norseman82' date='03 December 2009 - 01:15 PM' timestamp='1259867733' post='2013858']
Maybe he was practicing how to cross-check heretics with his hockey stick?
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Here's a fun fact for you: the official sport of Canada isn't hockey, it's hitting heretics with hockey sticks. Very complex game; the scoring is extremely involved.

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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='03 December 2009 - 04:44 PM' timestamp='1259873078' post='2013892']
Here's a fun fact for you: the official sport of Canada isn't hockey, it's hitting heretics with hockey sticks. Very complex game; the scoring is extremely involved.
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Well be sure to keep your guard up. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_grin.gif[/img]

Jim

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You've probably never seen a broadcast before because 99% of the camera and broadcast equipment in Canada is from the advent of television and isn't compatible with American technology. The other 1% of used by hockey, because Americans like that too.

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