The Dove At Baptism

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='HisChildForever' date='24 November 2009 - 11:19 PM' timestamp='1259122765' post='2009022']
I'm frantically taking notes.
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I rest my case! For someone who has no interest in this topic. You allow it to take alot of your time. I don't mind putting in the time. God says your the poster child for Christian ignorance and you make a great example even if it's at your own expense. We all make our own bed to die in. Our choices define who and what we truely are. Do we keep the law of God to become children of God. Or do we serve False God's and laws of men?

Apply this understanding to self for a truthful answer that needs not be shared unless you really want to go there.

God Bless

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='24 November 2009 - 11:33 PM' timestamp='1259123607' post='2009029']
For someone who has no interest in this topic. [/quote]

Hello, I said I was taking notes!

[quote] We all make our own bed to die in.
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Ooh I like my bed. Am under the blankets right now, actually.

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
let's just all admit that nobody reads document dumps. not even ones with pretty colors and fonts.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='HisChildForever' date='24 November 2009 - 10:35 PM' timestamp='1259123706' post='2009030']
Hello, I said I was taking notes!



Ooh I like my bed. Am under the blankets right now, actually.
[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
wow! multi-tasker.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='Lil Red' date='24 November 2009 - 11:37 PM' timestamp='1259123832' post='2009034']
+J.M.J.+
wow! multi-tasker.
[/quote]

LOL.

[todd_vetter33]

Page 35-38 of this link illustrates with more information what was shared in my original post to this thread.

[url="http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf"]http://www.thedeatha...esurrection.pdf[/url]

Page 37 illustrates with a more complete copy of the written doctrine received by rome before they made your 4 bible cannon gospels in the third and fourth century. In the simplest truth, page 37 illustrates why the entire Christian world which is bound to Roman catholic doctrine by their own choice is of the spirit of anti-christ, because they do not seek to have the Christ (annointing of the spirit of God within).

This is what the New Covenant is all about. This is why you are a temple that must be cleansed. Hope you will take the time to search out the facts illustrated regarding the resurrection of the son and daughter of man; Despite the belligerant spirits that seek to keep this information from you not knowing what motivates their actions when they are not sons and daughters of God by Law.

God Bless

Edited November 25, 2009 by todd_vetter33

[Nihil Obstat]

Ooh, I forgot that Toddy was one of the "God has personally instructed me to blah blah blah blah blah..." types.


Toddy, why don't you try to convince us of something- anything, using only a Douay-Rheims Bible, a Catechism of the Catholic Church, any Vatican document that you can quote accurately, and up to 300 words of explanation. If you can't even summarize your position with anything less than a 4000 word essay, then there's something wrong with your position.

[BG45]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='25 November 2009 - 12:33 AM' timestamp='1259123607' post='2009029']
I rest my case! For someone who has no interest in this topic. You allow it to take alot of your time. I don't mind putting in the time. [b] God says your the poster child for Christian ignorance [/b]and you make a great example even if it's at your own expense. We all make our own bed to die in. Our choices define who and what we [b]truely[/b] are. Do we keep the law of God to become children of God. Or do we serve False God's and laws of men?

Apply this understanding to self for a truthful answer that needs not be shared unless you really want to go there.

God Bless
[/quote]

If He did say that, I wish He would've taken the time to use proper grammar and spelling.

[quote]
+J.M.J.+
let's just all admit that nobody reads document dumps. not even ones with pretty colors and fonts.[/quote]


I actually read every word Budge posted during my time here with Her...

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='25 November 2009 - 12:16 AM' timestamp='1259126197' post='2009059']
Ooh, I forgot that Toddy was one of the "God has personally instructed me to blah blah blah blah blah..." types.


Toddy, why don't you try to convince us of something- anything, using only a [b][u]Douay-Rheims Bible, a Catechism of the Catholic Church, any Vatican document[/u][/b] that you can quote accurately, and up to 300 words of explanation. If you can't even summarize your position with anything less than a 4000 word essay, then there's something wrong with your position.
[/quote]


See the first page of this thread. or did you just see the name and jump into the end of the conversation... Great example of Blah blah blah.

Had you taken the time to read this thread before speaking you would have noticed that I used the CCC, The douey reims and multiple vatican publications during the first page of this thread. You will also find a happy mix of that same information at some various points within the time line shared had you taken the time to view it in full.

God Bless blah blah blah man. Seems as though God has a new poster child. Looks like Hischildforever is off the hook.

[b][size="2"]Numbers 33:3(Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition.) yes the typos are just as you will find them in the Douey-rheims.

3Now the children of Israel departed from Ramesses the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month, the day after the [u][color="#0000ff"]phase[/color][/u], with a mighty hand, in the [color="#0000ff"][u]eight[/u][/color] of all the Egyptians,

[color="#0000ff"]Now for a more correct translation of this verse which preserves the symbolism of the High Day talked about in John regarding the crucifixion.
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Numbers 33:3 KJV

3And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the [u][color="#0000ff"]Passover[/color][/u] the children of Israel went out with an [color="#0000ff"]high[/color] hand in the [color="#0000ff"]sight[/color] of all the Egyptians.

[color="#ff0000"]I share this verse out of love for the man in the prior post who was quick to point out my improper spelling and grammer. Now ask.. did i do that on purpose just to prove this point??????

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Edited November 25, 2009 by todd_vetter33

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='24 November 2009 - 11:23 PM' timestamp='1259126637' post='2009067']
See the first page of this thread. or did you just see the name and jump into the end of the conversation... Great example of Blah blah blah.

Had you taken the time to read this thread before quoting you would have noticed that I used the CCC, The douey reims and multiple vatican publications.

God Bless blah blah blah man. Seems as though God has a new poster child. Looks like Hischildforever is off the hook.
[/quote]
You're not reading very well. I said "only" those sources aforementioned.

That's because we hate all the rest of this junk you're quoting.

I have indeed read this entire thread, bud.

[Drew-Memphis]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='25 November 2009 - 12:23 AM' timestamp='1259126637' post='2009067']
God Bless blah blah blah man. Seems as though God has a new poster child. Looks like Hischildforever is off the hook.
[/quote]

Seems as though Todd here likes to assume what God means and how He feels.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='25 November 2009 - 12:23 AM' timestamp='1259126637' post='2009067']
God Bless blah blah blah man. Seems as though God has a new poster child. Looks like Hischildforever is off the hook.
[/quote]

Whew, good thing. I don't want to be late to my party.

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='25 November 2009 - 12:25 AM' timestamp='1259126759' post='2009069']
You're not reading very well. I said "only" those sources aforementioned.

That's because we hate all the rest of this junk you're quoting.

I have indeed read this entire thread, bud.
[/quote]


So what you want me to do is ignore history instead of using God's word as a light to the world.

You will find your douey reims bible records the ten commandments as God spoke them. Why does the CCC try to change God's laws?

God Bless

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Drew-Memphis' date='25 November 2009 - 12:26 AM' timestamp='1259126803' post='2009070']
Seems as though Todd here likes to assume what God means and how He feels.
[/quote]

quote from Drew's post
"Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it." John Paul II

Stupidity: poor ability to understand or to profit from experience
a stupid mistake

The law of God being wisdom from God is there so you don't have to continue in stupidity which is the equal with Sin which leads only to death. The JPII quote has got to be the worst speculation ever printed by a man claiming to be inspired by God.

Stupidity is a state of confusion based on lack of information. in short this is why the Christian world is divided. They build on portions of Historical recordings instead of building on the truth of God. God is not the author of confusion or stupidity. Yet this is the Christian world as a whole. It's for this reason the Christian world is Anti-Christ. They are lacking the Christ which is the love and wisdom of God that is available to all men. unfortunatley men are bread to love the lie rather than the truth.

These were not the brightest words for Pope John Paul II to speak and claim stupidity is a gift from God. Stupidity is what we are born with according to the flesh for the dead know nothing. We remain in stupidity if we continue to break the laws of God for we continue to make mistakes and do not profit from the experience. God's gift is wisdom directly from Him when we are His Children walking in his ways. Stupidity is the ignorance that keeps us in death untill we are born again by the wisdom and light of God. Men will remain in stupidity if they continue to reject the law and love of God. Stupidity is not a gift from God but the curse of man that God wants to break with his spirit inside you.

It's no suprise to me that Nhiles would urge me to stay in his historical bubble of stupidity. They only keep what they can explain and makes them traditionally look good. Anything in contention with the portions of history they have adopted for truth is Heresey and they fear it so they will try with everything they can to discredit the real recorded truth regarding their history by branding it Heresey.

This is not how you use God's word as a light to the world.

God Bless

Edited November 25, 2009 by todd_vetter33

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='24 November 2009 - 11:40 PM' timestamp='1259127609' post='2009083']
So what you want me to do is ignore history instead of using God's word as a light to the world.

You will find your douey reims bible records the ten commandments as God spoke them. Why does the CCC try to change God's laws?

God Bless
[/quote]
This is your thread bucko. Why don't you take a Douay Rheims Bible and a CCC and enlighten us in 300 of your own words or less, oh mighty prophet?
When I said Vatican document I should have been more accurate and said Church document. Obviously we don't want to ignore history, so you may use any legitimate Church document since they tend to accurately reflect Tradition.

Edited November 25, 2009 by Nihil Obstat

[Drew-Memphis]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='25 November 2009 - 12:49 AM' timestamp='1259128196' post='2009088']
quote from Drew's post
"Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it."

Stupidity: poor ability to understand or to profit from experience
a stupid mistake

The law of God being wisdom from God is there so you don't have to continue in stupidity which is the equal with Sin which leads only to death. The JPII quote is got to be the worst speculation ever printed by a man claiming to be inspired by God.

Stupidity is a state of confusion based on lack of information. in short this is why the Christian world is divided. They build on portions of Historical recordings instead of building on the truth of God. God is not the author of confusion or stupidity. Yet this is the Christian world as a whole. It's for this reason the Christian world is Anti-Christ. They are lacking the Christ which is the love and wisdom of God that is available to all men. unfortunatley men are bread to love the lie rather than the truth.

These were not the brightest words for Pope John Paul II to speak and claim stupidity is a gift from God. God's gift is wisdom directly from Him when we are His Children walking in his ways. Stupidity is the ignorance that keeps us in death untill we are born again by the wisdom and light of God.

God Bless
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Believing, like I do, that everything we have (good and bad) are gifts from God; stupidity is a gift from God.

I sincerely appreciate the overly long dissertation of my signature.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Drew-Memphis' date='24 November 2009 - 11:56 PM' timestamp='1259128613' post='2009098']
Believing, like I do, that everything we have (good and bad) are gifts from God; stupidity is a gift from God.

I sincerely appreciate the overly long dissertation of my signature.
[/quote]
Much ado about nothing.

[Drew-Memphis]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='25 November 2009 - 12:54 AM' timestamp='1259128483' post='2009095']
This is your thread bucko. Why don't you take a Douay Rheims Bible and a CCC and enlighten us in 300 of your own words or less, oh mighty prophet?
When I said Vatican document I should have been more accurate and said Church document. Obviously we don't want to ignore history, so you may use any legitimate Church document since they tend to accurately reflect Tradition.
[/quote]

*grabs the popcorn*

This might take awhile...

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Drew-Memphis' date='24 November 2009 - 11:58 PM' timestamp='1259128695' post='2009101']
*grabs the popcorn*

This might take awhile...
[/quote]
Yea, I'm hoping he's finished by the time I wake up tomorrow morning, because I'm sure as heck not going to waste my life on this thread.

[Drew-Memphis]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='25 November 2009 - 12:59 AM' timestamp='1259128751' post='2009102']
Yea, I'm hoping he's finished by the time I wake up tomorrow morning, because I'm sure as heck not going to waste my life on this thread.
[/quote]

That's why I got a REALLY big bag of popcorn.