Philosophy Vs. Theology

[Fiat_Voluntas_Tua]

Thanks!

Now, for the Western take on the roles?

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Fiat_Voluntas_Tua' date='09 December 2009 - 03:36 PM' timestamp='1260398181' post='2016898']
Thanks!

Now, for the Western take on the roles?
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Perhaps L_D will see your thread and post on Aquinas. I no longer have an interest in Aristotle, which has caused my interest in Scholasticism to wane over time.

[Fiat_Voluntas_Tua]

HAHA... that is a pity!

What about Aeterni Patris??? You gotta show some love for that!

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_04081879_aeterni-patris_en.html

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Fiat_Voluntas_Tua' date='09 December 2009 - 03:59 PM' timestamp='1260399558' post='2016922']
HAHA... that is a pity!

What about Aeterni Patris??? You gotta show some love for that!

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_04081879_aeterni-patris_en.html
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Eastern theology has never used the categories of thought promoted by Scholasticism in doing theology. But of course Latin Catholics are free to honor the theological works of the Scholastics in their [i]sui juris[/i] Church.

[Fiat_Voluntas_Tua]

Zing!

What do you think of metaphysics (non-theological in nature) and philosophy of nature? What do the Eastern Father's say about secular philosophy?

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Fiat_Voluntas_Tua' date='09 December 2009 - 04:06 PM' timestamp='1260399992' post='2016936']
Zing!

What do you think of metaphysics (non-theological in nature) and philosophy of nature? What do the Eastern Father's say about secular philosophy?
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I agree with what St. Gregory of Nyssa said in the text I quoted earlier.

In other words, I do not believe that man can transcend the gap between the uncreated and created in philosophy. Philosophy, even when it claims the name Metaphysics, is really only talking about the created world, as St. Gregory said:

"Everything is limited by its own nature as long as it exists and stays within its own bounds. If anything created goes outside itself, it will lose its own essence just like the senses which cannot transgress their natural functions. . . . Thus all creation cannot transgress its natural limitations by a comprehensive insight; it always remains within its own bounds and whatever it may view, it sees itself. Should creation think it beholds anything which transcends it, this cannot be because it lacks the capacity to look beyond its own nature."

[Slappo]

[quote name='Fiat_Voluntas_Tua' date='09 December 2009 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1260396810' post='2016867']
However, in response to your comment about the state of philosophy today in comparison to ancient philosophy...I do not think it is different in its aim, but only in its method...philosophy being the pursuit of truth via reason has its hand in MANY if not all the empirical sciences (especially physics). The pre-socratics were concerned about the nature of 'physics' (the nature of nature/change), and so we get philosophers who theorize about biology and astronomy and geology, etc. So, it was all considered philosophy (in some way). I think modern and contemporary philosophy is still concerned about these things (change, being, etc.).
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Ahh but there is quite a difference. Especially in secular philosophy. As secular philosophy today limits the findings of truth to "some[b]thing[/b]" whereas the philosophers of old found truth in "some[b]one[/b]". Take for instance, the wisemen that visited the infant Jesus. They were following the ways of philosophy and allowed it to lead them to someone, the infant Jesus, and rejoiced when it did so. Philosophy, at least secular philosophy today, won't accept the truth to be someone rather then something.

[Mr.Cat]

Philosophy and Theology are not the same, but rather are distinctively different, to call philosophy subservient to theology seems dangerous and unwise to me. To imagine that somehow one’s theology is proven through philosophy seems like a warping and abuse of the schools of philosophy.