Is The End Near

[Laudate_Dominum]

That was your 666th post in the debate table Stern. I'm scared.

[Laudate_Dominum]

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[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='02 January 2010 - 08:17 PM' timestamp='1262481438' post='2028787']
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~Sternhauser

[Maggyie]

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Edited January 3, 2010 by Maggie

[Lilllabettt]

That is my favorite Buckley shirt.
This is the best picture I have of it:
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Lilllabettt/buckley.jpg[/img]


It says "don't let them etc." on the sleeve is Buckley's motto: roughly translated, what's licit for God isn't licit for cows ... "

I take pride in being a heroine. You know in France, most things have the male gender, so french feminists want to invent a feminine version. It is exactly the opposite. They are mad they get called "hero"; they want to be called heroine.

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='Sternhauser' date='03 January 2010 - 12:07 PM' timestamp='1262480824' post='2028782']
You know what's sexist? To insist on using masculine nouns for women, as though we've got to give them a linguistic hand up to join the proud ranks of apparently superior masculine gender. Also sexist is using gender-neutral terms as though we've got to condescendingly level the playing field to accomodate them. The assumption that it's sexist to refer to a female who acts as an "actress" itself casts aspersions upon the female sex, as though it were a lesser sex.

~Sternhauser
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OK, whatever! but it wasn't me who decided to use neutral terms. It sounds a bit like a no win situation though. If you give them a different rank your sexist because you're not making them comparable to males, but if you give them the same rank you're sexist because you're patronising them.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='Lilllabettt' date='02 January 2010 - 08:32 PM' timestamp='1262482354' post='2028798']
I take pride in being a heroine. You know in France, most things have the male gender, so french feminists want to invent a feminine version. It is exactly the opposite. They are mad they get called "hero"; they want to be called heroine.
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Makes me think of difference feminism.

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Lilllabettt' date='02 January 2010 - 08:32 PM' timestamp='1262482354' post='2028798']
That is my favorite Buckley shirt.
This is the best picture I have of it:
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Lilllabettt/buckley.jpg[/img]


It says "don't let them etc." on the sleeve is Buckley's motto: roughly translated, what's licit for God isn't licit for cows ... "

I take pride in being a heroine. You know in France, most things have the male gender, so french feminists want to invent a feminine version. It is exactly the opposite. They are mad they get called "hero"; they want to be called heroine.
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Based on the main text, it seems more of an Eric Voegelin shirt.

~Sternhauser

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Mark of the Cross' date='02 January 2010 - 08:34 PM' timestamp='1262482457' post='2028800']
OK, whatever! but it wasn't me who decided to use neutral terms. It sounds a bit like a no win situation though.
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You did decide to use neutral terms. Though you were not the initiator of the concept, you decided to try to "correct" me into supporting their use.

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If you give them a different rank your sexist because you're not making them comparable to males, but if you give them the same rank you're sexist because you're patronising them. [img]public/style_emoticons/default/sadder.gif[/img][/quote]

You're still falling into their ideological nonsense, of "rank." Which "ranks higher?" A Bishop in an Eastern Rite, or a Bishop in the Roman Rite? Their "rank" is the same, but while they share the same nature as bishops, their rites are very dissimilar. Which is a "better," material, steel or aluminum? Each metal is exclusively indispensable for certain roles, and completely inappropriate in other roles.

The difference between the sexes is, well, like a finely crafted pistol. You can make the frame, the supporting structure, out of aluminum. It's a fine metal for that. The barrel, however, is never made out of aluminum, because by its unique nature and properties, it is not suited to that task. Any attempt to force it to play that role would have unpleasant results. If you want an unnecessarily heavy and corrosion-prone pistol, use only blued steel, by all means. Don't tack any lightness or beauty onto it by adding polished wooden grips.

What is patronizing is to [i]lie[/i] to women (and men) by saying, "We're totally the same in every way," in order to make each sex ([i]not[/i] [i]"gender,"[/i] for all that is sweet) feel better about their respective weaknesses. Recognize, accept and embrace differences. Isn't that what all this P.C. "diversity" rubbish is supposed to be about in the [i]first[/i] place?

How is it that ships, while they can be extremely powerful, are always called "she?" Because they usually possess more feminine attributes: beauty, tranquility, gracefulness and sleekness. Of course, there are some Zodiacs and airboats zipping about. We're not sure what to call those.


[img]http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/kimber-grand-raptor.jpg[/img]

Beautiful, ain't she.

~Sternhauser

Edited January 3, 2010 by Sternhauser

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='Sternhauser' date='03 January 2010 - 01:28 PM' timestamp='1262485733' post='2028823']



[img]http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/kimber-grand-raptor.jpg[/img]

Beautiful, ain't she.

~Sternhauser
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I thought guns were supposed to be an extension of some part of the male anatomy? BTW does it have a hair trigger! It was just a half joking Winchester type comment I made. I wasn't really wanting to start a sexist riot. I can get into enough trouble with my religious posts without that.
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[MissyP89]

[quote name='Sternhauser' date='02 January 2010 - 08:07 PM' timestamp='1262480824' post='2028782']
You know what's sexist? To insist on using masculine nouns for women, as though we've got to give them a linguistic hand up to join the proud ranks of apparently superior masculine gender. Also sexist is using gender-neutral terms as though we've got to condescendingly level the playing field to accomodate them. The assumption that it's sexist to refer to a female who acts as an "actress" itself casts aspersions upon the female sex, as though it were a lesser sex.

~Sternhauser
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Pwned.

[MissyP89]

Regarding the OP, I always recall the parable of the thief in discussions like this. Didn't Jesus tell us not to sit around trying to figure it out?

[Jaime]

[quote name='MissyP89' date='03 January 2010 - 12:34 AM' timestamp='1262496844' post='2028925']
Regarding the OP, I always recall the parable of the thief in discussions like this. Didn't Jesus tell us not to sit around trying to figure it out?
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I think its closer to say the meaning of the parable is to always be prepared.

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='03 January 2010 - 05:23 PM' timestamp='1262557436' post='2029135']
I think its closer to say the meaning of the parable is to always be prepared.
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Probably. But I think Missy's interpretation is also valid. We shouldn't be preoccupied with it. If Jesus said, "You will not know the day or the hour," well, who are we to try to figure it out and/or worry about it?

Practically speaking, we can see the manifest damage caused by millenialists throughout history. Millenialists who were [i]always [/i]sure that "now is the time!"

~Sternhauser

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='Sternhauser' date='04 January 2010 - 09:46 AM' timestamp='1262558764' post='2029144']
If Jesus said, "You will not know the day or the hour,"
~Sternhauser
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Some people me included interpret this as not only referring to end of days but also to the death of the individual which we will have to be concerned about rather than end of days which more than likely won't occur in our time.
Crikey! I'm getting paranoid now worrying about what I write and how I word it in case I start a fire. Writing on forums could be good training for lawyers.

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Mark of the Cross' date='03 January 2010 - 06:02 PM' timestamp='1262559732' post='2029148']
Some people me included interpret this as not only referring to end of days but also to the death of the individual which we will have to be concerned about rather than end of days which more than likely won't occur in our time.
Crikey! I'm getting paranoid now worrying about what I write and how I word it in case I start a fire. Writing on forums could be good training for lawyers.
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Both are valid interpretations. St. Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8 gives some more clarification along the dual-meaning "be prepared," notion, and supports Missy's interpretation:

"But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation."

Mark 13 talks about the destruction of Jerusalem, but I'm afraid it has wider implications, as well.

There is a particular and a general "day of the Lord." We know that much.

~Sternhauser

Edited January 3, 2010 by Sternhauser

[Socrates]

[quote name='infinitelord1' date='01 January 2010 - 10:28 PM' timestamp='1262402905' post='2028325']
im gonna really go out on a limb here by saying this...

i think i have met the whore of babylon.
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I hope she didn't give you a nasty disease.

[tinytherese]

It's the end of the world as we know it and I'm feeling fine.

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='02 January 2010 - 01:47 AM' timestamp='1262414879' post='2028485']
"But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone." (Matthew 24:36)
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Resurrexi,, its good to see a voice of reason out there. The danger of trying to predict the end times is we fall into areas such as divination, sinful and forbidden. We are not able to know God's will, as his children he would not want to worry us, however we are supposed to be ready. We should live each day as it is our last or our personal "end times" it will come to many of us like a "thief in the night" we could die by accident or murder or unknown health issues that is why we should be prepared for our end times. Someone posted they are praying to hasten God's hand? I can not help but as to wonder what is so wrong with that individuals life to hope for an end to the world an end to the lives of billions of people. Surely the Mercy of God is why we are still here despite the state of the world, did not God send an angel to find one worthy soul to save in sodom and gommorah, sounds like his love for humans was clearly stated here, also in the story of the great flood. Why would a God that loves us so want to punish all for the sins of some? I will pray for His mercy and hope the end times come to us all individually.

ed

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='Sternhauser' date='03 January 2010 - 05:46 PM' timestamp='1262558764' post='2029144']
Probably. But I think Missy's interpretation is also valid. We shouldn't be preoccupied with it. If Jesus said, "You will not know the day or the hour," well, who are we to try to figure it out and/or worry about it?

Practically speaking, we can see the manifest damage caused by millenialists throughout history. Millenialists who were [i]always [/i]sure that "now is the time!"

~Sternhauser
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Yes like the Hale Bop comet people who killed themselves to be picked up by an alien spaceship carrying Jesus, I beieve it was thirty or more poor souls who followed a madman to their death as he was certain the end times were upon us.

ed