God And Guns

[homeschoolmom]

I refuse to speculate.

[Nunsense]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='07 January 2010 - 10:03 AM' timestamp='1262819016' post='2031198']
I refuse to speculate.
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You are very wise, very wise indeed.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='06 January 2010 - 06:03 PM' timestamp='1262819016' post='2031198']
I refuse to speculate.
[/quote]
Same here but the question compelled me to vote no for inexplicable reasons. I renounce that question in the name of Rufio.

[Hilde]

A big vortex in the sky?

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='06 January 2010 - 05:44 PM' timestamp='1262817850' post='2031179']
Do we really know that Christ never used legitimate violence except at the chasing of the money-changers out of the temple? "But there are also many other things which Jesus did which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written." (John 21:25)
[/quote]

Eh. Although violence can be justified, it wasn't his mission. I think that he would have allowed Theotokos the grace of martyrdom or stopped Theotokos' death in some other way. The cleansing of the temple was in line with his mission, which was to fulfill OT prophecies and purify the faith of the people. Jesus wasn't here to fight temporal battles.

[Socrates]

"Guns and religion, religion and guns
I cling to 'em both, apologizing to none
They both can save you when trouble comes
Guns and religion, religion and guns . . ."

http://www.myspace.com/austincunninghammusic

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='Socrates' date='06 January 2010 - 07:10 PM' timestamp='1262823034' post='2031239']
"Guns and religion, religion and guns
I cling to 'em both, apologizing to none
They both can save you when trouble comes
Guns and religion, religion and guns . . ."

[url="http://www.myspace.com/austincunninghammusic"]http://www.myspace.c...cunninghammusic[/url]
[/quote]

Isn't that what the people of Pennsylvania do?

[Socrates]

[quote name='aalpha1989' date='06 January 2010 - 07:11 PM' timestamp='1262823092' post='2031240']
Isn't that what the people of Pennsylvania do?
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And Texas.
Listen to the song (currently second on the playlist).

Edited January 7, 2010 by Socrates

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='Socrates' date='06 January 2010 - 07:12 PM' timestamp='1262823166' post='2031241']
And Texas.
Listen to the song (currently second on the playlist).
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will do... I was referencing Obama's campaign visit to (Pittsburgh?). He said that poor uneducated people cling to guns and religion.
wait maybe it was just guns. that sounds more right.

Edited January 7, 2010 by aalpha1989

[Socrates]

[quote name='aalpha1989' date='06 January 2010 - 07:14 PM' timestamp='1262823247' post='2031242']
will do... I was referencing Obama's campaign visit to (Pittsburgh?). He said that poor uneducated people cling to guns and religion.
wait maybe it was just guns. that sounds more right.
[/quote]
It was "cling to their guns and religion." The song references this at the beginning:
“I heard the president say campaigning that day / I couldn’t believe what I heard him say / he said people in small towns get bitter and cling / to guns or religion like that’s a dumb, backwards thing.”

(Obama actually made the comment in San Diego or someplace, talking about people in small-town Pennsylvania.)

Edited January 7, 2010 by Socrates

[Winchester]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='06 January 2010 - 06:17 PM' timestamp='1262819844' post='2031202']
Same here but the question compelled me to vote no for inexplicable reasons. I renounce that question in the name of Rufio.
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[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/DonkeyPuncherJ/Rufio.jpg[/img]

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='Socrates' date='06 January 2010 - 07:18 PM' timestamp='1262823485' post='2031246']
It was "cling to their guns and religion." The song references this at the beginning:
“I heard the president say campaigning that day / I couldn’t believe what I heard him say / he said people in small towns get bitter and cling / to guns or religion like that’s a dumb, backwards thing.”

(Obama actually made the comment in San Diego or someplace, talking about people in small-town Pennsylvania.)
[/quote]


ooooh got it now.

[KnightofChrist]

Jesus will dåmn souls to hell forever but He would never ever shoot some thug trying to hurt his mom dukes? Yeah right...

[Kitty]

[img]http://brandrea.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/jesus_gun31.jpg[/img]

[mommas_boy]

[quote name='nunsense' date='06 January 2010 - 06:22 AM' timestamp='1262776940' post='2030775']
No, He would have said to the aggressor,

[i]"Strike her down, and she shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!"[/i]


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[kamiller42]

A part of me says no because if the aggressor was going to take his life, he would have accept it as God's will. He knew he would have to die in order to fulfill the prophecy. If God chose that to be the way, he would accept it. We see that in Luke when the aggressors are greeted with Peter's sword. Jesus says "Enough!"

The other part of me says he would not need a gun because his gaze would disarm the aggressor. The aggressor would then hang his head in shame. I saw Jesus do this in a movie.

[Winchester]

Red Dawn?

[kamiller42]

[quote name='Winchester' date='06 January 2010 - 10:34 PM' timestamp='1262835274' post='2031364']
Red Dawn?
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In a way, you are correct. No soviets or wolverines though. Sorry.

[Winchester]

"I never saweth the twins again..." Lk 12:31

[Gregorius]

[quote name='nunsense' date='06 January 2010 - 06:10 PM' timestamp='1262819420' post='2031201']
You are very wise, very wise indeed.
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