Official Colts Fan I Told You So Thread .

[Ed Normile]

Well now that the Saints, a 5 to 1 underdog team has totally humiliated Peyton and his crew, I thought why not start an I told you so thread. Being a compassionate person I will not mention any body personally by name or knickname who told me how wrong i was about this, but let me just add to all Colts fans, Hoosier daddy now ?

ed

Edited February 8, 2010 by Ed Normile

[mcts]

Was this really necessary? I get the whole "sweet! my team won! this is awesome" thing, but do you REALLY have to kick the losers when they're down? This is totally uncalled for.

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='mcts' date='08 February 2010 - 12:19 AM' timestamp='1265606379' post='2053139']
Was this really necessary? I get the whole "sweet! my team won! this is awesome" thing, but do you REALLY have to kick the losers when they're down? This is totally uncalled for.
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Thanks for the minus 1, it shows a poor sportsmanship attitude, lol. I have watched football since the first superbowl with my dad, and yes I can tell you wholeheartedly, this is what the game is all about. Intense rivalry, showmanship etc. Why do you think your beloved team on the on side kick recovered by the saints, was pummeling the saints player in the face, he did not even have the ball. They sure were showing intense emotions, which will make them play harder the next time they may meet. Rivalry in football, including "I told you so's" is what makes it so appealing to the audience. By the way, I have posted many times here that the Steelers are my team, however I do not like the Colts for the attitude of he ownership, leaving their homestate for lack of a new stadium, which they also threatened in your state, which embarassed itself by caving in and spending many millions to cater to an owner who will probably leave them someday any way, despite being awarded a new stadium in response to his threat to move the team. If its not worth getting emotionally involved in it would not be the most watched game in the world.

ed

Edited February 8, 2010 by Ed Normile

[havok579257]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 12:37 AM' timestamp='1265607469' post='2053153']
Thanks for the minus 1, it shows a poor sportsmanship attitude, lol. I have watched football since the first superbowl with my dad, and yes I can tell you wholeheartedly, this is what the game is all about. Intense rivalry, showmanship etc. Why do you think your beloved team on the on side kick recovered by the saints, was pummeling the saints player in the face, he did not even have the ball. They sure were showing intense emotions, which will make them play harder the next time they may meet. Rivalry in football, including "I told you so's" is what makes it so appealing to the audience. By the way, I have posted many times here that the Steelers are my team, however I do not like the Colts for the attitude of he ownership, leaving their homestate for lack of a new stadium, which they also threatened in your state, which embarassed itself by caving in and spending many millions to cater to an owner who will probably leave them someday any way, despite being awarded a new stadium in response to his threat to move the team. If its not worth getting emotionally involved in it would not be the most watched game in the world.

ed
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so if you don't like the colts for that then you can't like the browns, titans, rams, raiders, and so on and so on. many owners did the same thing with their teams in the past.

how can you like the saints and what happened against farve. them saying they were going to put illegal hits on farve and they didn't care if they were penalized just as long as they could hit him and try to knock him out of the game.

[mcts]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 12:37 AM' timestamp='1265607469' post='2053153']
Thanks for the minus 1, it shows a poor sportsmanship attitude, lol. I have watched football since the first superbowl with my dad, and yes I can tell you wholeheartedly, this is what the game is all about. Intense rivalry, showmanship etc. Why do you think your beloved team on the on side kick recovered by the saints, was pummeling the saints player in the face, he did not even have the ball. They sure were showing intense emotions, which will make them play harder the next time they may meet. Rivalry in football, including "I told you so's" is what makes it so appealing to the audience. By the way, I have posted many times here that the Steelers are my team, however I do not like the Colts for the attitude of he ownership, leaving their homestate for lack of a new stadium, which they also threatened in your state, which embarassed itself by caving in and spending many millions to cater to an owner who will probably leave them someday any way, despite being awarded a new stadium in response to his threat to move the team. If its not worth getting emotionally involved in it would not be the most watched game in the world.

ed
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Ok, 1, I get the rivalry. I was pissed at the end of the game. I was screaming at the television. But for you to come on here and say "I told you so" is not good sportsmanship. At all. Yeah, we know that you were right. Congratulations. Making a whole thread about it wasn't necessary.

2, the Colts needed a new stadium. The dome was ridiculously small and falling apart. It was costing WAY too much to repair. With the new stadium, we are now able to host a superbowl, along with other events that aren't football related. That brings a lot of revenue to Indianapolis and the surrounding area. It also gave a LOT of people, including my dad, construction jobs. Also, they can't leave for at least 35 years, so that's ok.

[XIX]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 01:12 AM' timestamp='1265605971' post='2053135']
Well now that the Saints, a 5 to 1 underdog team has totally humiliated Peyton and his crew, I thought why not start an I told you so thread. Being a compassionate person I will not mention any body personally by name or knickname who told me how wrong i was about this, but let me just add to all Colts fans, Hoosier daddy now ?

ed
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The Saints were only a 5 point underdog, nobody favored by less that a touchdown could ever be a 5-to-1 favorite. I believe the Colts were actually a 2-to-1 favorite.

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='havok579257' date='08 February 2010 - 12:42 AM' timestamp='1265607770' post='2053158']
so if you don't like the colts for that then you can't like the browns, titans, rams, raiders, and so on and so on. many owners did the same thing with their teams in the past.

how can you like the saints and what happened against farve. them saying they were going to put illegal hits on farve and they didn't care if they were penalized just as long as they could hit him and try to knock him out of the game.
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The illegal hits designed to take out the QB , or for that matter any star player, is an honored tradition in pro ball. The team owners back in the day used to actually put cash bounties on players, collectable if they were injured and sidelined for the remainder of the game, it was frowned on after the Joe Namath broken leg incident by the league. But it still goes on, what amazes me is you seem to be unaware of the colts rep as a dirty playing team. This is just football, not intended for wimps or women.

ed

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='XIX' date='08 February 2010 - 12:55 AM' timestamp='1265608534' post='2053170']
The Saints were only a 5 point underdog, nobody favored by less that a touchdown could ever be a 5-to-1 favorite. I believe the Colts were actually a 2-to-1 favorite.
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Come on, vegas odds were five to one at game time. Talk about your poor sports, you guys are giving me four minuses here all because your team lost! I would not embarass myself that way.

ed

[zunshynn]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='07 February 2010 - 11:04 PM' timestamp='1265609069' post='2053173']
[s]The illegal hits designed to take out the QB , or for that matter any star player, is an honored tradition in pro ball. The team owners back in the day used to actually put cash bounties on players, collectable if they were injured and sidelined for the remainder of the game, it was frowned on after the Joe Namath broken leg incident by the league. But it still goes on, what amazes me is you seem to be unaware of the colts rep as a dirty playing team.[/s] This is just football, [s]not intended for wimps or women.[/s]

[s]ed[/s]
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[mcts]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 01:04 AM' timestamp='1265609069' post='2053173']
The illegal hits designed to take out the QB , or for that matter any star player, is an honored tradition in pro ball. The team owners back in the day used to actually put cash bounties on players, collectable if they were injured and sidelined for the remainder of the game, it was frowned on after the Joe Namath broken leg incident by the league. But it still goes on, what amazes me is you seem to be unaware of the colts rep as a dirty playing team. This is just football, not intended for wimps or women.

ed
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Whether it's a time honored tradition or not, it's still dirty.

Enlighten me about other things that the Colts have done that's been dirty.

[mcts]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 01:07 AM' timestamp='1265609229' post='2053176']
Come on, vegas odds were five to one at game time. Talk about your poor sports, you guys are giving me four minuses here all because your team lost! I would not embarass myself that way.

ed
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Dude, it has nothing at all to do with the fact that my team lost. I have been a good sport about that all night. What I don't like is your bad sportsmanship. Whether having said bad sportsmanship is a tradition or not, it has no place on Phatmass.

[havok579257]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 01:04 AM' timestamp='1265609069' post='2053173']
The illegal hits designed to take out the QB , or for that matter any star player, is an honored tradition in pro ball. The team owners back in the day used to actually put cash bounties on players, collectable if they were injured and sidelined for the remainder of the game, it was frowned on after the Joe Namath broken leg incident by the league. But it still goes on, what amazes me is you seem to be unaware of the colts rep as a dirty playing team. This is just football, not intended for wimps or women.

ed
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illegal hits is not a time honored tradition. illegal hits are a cheap way to win, now and then. if you can't beat a team without resorting to illegal hits to try and injure a qb then you shouldn't win.

and just because something happens does not make it right. intentionally trying to injure someone with illegal hits so they can no longer play is not right, no matter if it has happened before or not. it does not make it right.


yes i understand its football but it does not mean everything goes. its not ok for flozell adams to hit osi umenyera from behind when the play is over in hopes of trying to injure them. its not ok for a saints player to hit farve when he is no where involved in the play with the sole intent to try and injure him. its not ok when someone calls for a fair catch and you still trying to knock them out(polamalu in college to a k-state player). football is not about intentionally trying to injure someone. i mean would you think it was ok if in the last superbowl, after a play was over, karlos dansby running up and taking out big ben's knee, with the intent of trying to break it. if that happened in the last superbowl, you would think there is nothing wrong with it?

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='mcts' date='08 February 2010 - 12:45 AM' timestamp='1265607912' post='2053160']
Ok, 1, I get the rivalry. I was pissed at the end of the game. I was screaming at the television. But for you to come on here and say "I told you so" is not good sportsmanship. At all. Yeah, we know that you were right. Congratulations. Making a whole thread about it wasn't necessary.

2, the Colts needed a new stadium. The dome was ridiculously small and falling apart. It was costing WAY too much to repair. With the new stadium, we are now able to host a superbowl, along with other events that aren't football related. That brings a lot of revenue to Indianapolis and the surrounding area. It also gave a LOT of people, including my dad, construction jobs. Also, they can't leave for at least 35 years, so that's ok.
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The Colts also needed a new stadium in Baltimore too. The local politicians knew the fans there would continue to watch them in the old, outdated crumbling stadium with the traffic jams due to it being built in a residential area as they were loyal fans. I guess the financial loss to Baltimore is acceptable to you as it brought monies to your area, I wonder how many good catholic construction workers lived in the Baltimore area at the time. The difference being that Baltimore decided not to burden its citenzry with taxes that would burden[u] every [/u]taxpayer in Maryland, and would only benefit a relatively few local contractors. By the way, the Baltimore fans had a stadium, not a modern dome, it was only three sided so it held a lot less fans, but they still loved their team and showed up in droves. The ownership left, after receiving tax breaks and benefits in return of a promise by said owner he would not leave Baltimore either!

ed

Edited February 8, 2010 by Ed Normile

[mcts]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 01:14 AM' timestamp='1265609675' post='2053183']
The Colts also needed a new stadium in Baltimore too. The local politicians knew the fans there would continue to watch them in the old, outdated crumbling stadium with the traffic jams due to it being built in a residential area as they were loyal fans. I guess the financial loss to Baltimore is acceptable to you as it brought monies to your area, I wonder how many good catholic construction workers lived in the Baltimore area at the time. The difference being that Baltimore decided not to burden its citenzry with taxes that would burden[u] every [/u]taxpayer in Maryland, and would only benefit a relatively few local contractors. By the way, the Baltimore fans had a stadium, not a modern dome, it was only three sided so it held a lot less fans, but they still loved their team and showed up in droves. The ownership left, after receiving tax breaks and benefits in return of a promise by said owner he would not leave Baltimore either!

ed
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We would have still cheered for them in the Dome. More of us can cheer for them in the Luke now, though. Having the new stadium, however, has helped us have one of the best economies throughout this economic crisis. We have already had multiple conferences come to Indy, and they plan on coming back again, because of our convenient location and our welcoming city.

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='havok579257' date='08 February 2010 - 01:13 AM' timestamp='1265609636' post='2053182']
illegal hits is not a time honored tradition. illegal hits are a cheap way to win, now and then. if you can't beat a team without resorting to illegal hits to try and injure a qb then you shouldn't win.

and just because something happens does not make it right. intentionally trying to injure someone with illegal hits so they can no longer play is not right, no matter if it has happened before or not. it does not make it right.


yes i understand its football but it does not mean everything goes. its not ok for flozell adams to hit osi umenyera from behind when the play is over in hopes of trying to injure them. its not ok for a saints player to hit farve when he is no where involved in the play with the sole intent to try and injure him. its not ok when someone calls for a fair catch and you still trying to knock them out(polamalu in college to a k-state player). football is not about intentionally trying to injure someone. i mean would you think it was ok if in the last superbowl, after a play was over, karlos dansby running up and taking out big ben's knee, with the intent of trying to break it. if that happened in the last superbowl, you would think there is nothing wrong with it?
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Thats football my friend, and yes its the game. Hits intended to take out a player were actually awarded with cash bounties at one time as I posted earlier. If football is too violent for you, perhaps instead of whining about it you should tune something else in. Do not turn to Nascar, as they try to wreck each other, nor baseball, they have brawls, or hockey very violent, do not look at soccer as even the fans get involved in the fights, I would warn you off any contact sports, heck even in bicyle racing they will knock eacjh other out of the race. You woul be safer watching ballet.

ed

[mcts]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 01:21 AM' timestamp='1265610070' post='2053187']
Thats football my friend, and yes its the game. Hits intended to take out a player were actually awarded with cash bounties at one time as I posted earlier. If football is too violent for you, perhaps instead of whining about it you should tune something else in. Do not turn to Nascar, as they try to wreck each other, nor baseball, they have brawls, or hockey very violent, do not look at soccer as even the fans get involved in the fights, I would warn you off any contact sports, heck even in bicyle racing they will knock eacjh other out of the race. You woul be safer watching ballet.

ed
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I believe you missed his point, friend. It was that whether it happens all the time or not, it's not right. If you can't play by the rules and still win, you don't deserve to win, seeing as that's not the game.

[XIX]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 02:07 AM' timestamp='1265609229' post='2053176']
Come on, vegas odds were five to one at game time. Talk about your poor sports, you guys are giving me four minuses here all because your team lost! I would not embarass myself that way.

ed
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I was rooting for the Saints, especially after that onside kick and the 4th-and-goal decision to go for it. I wanted to see Sean Payton's bold decisions get rewarded. But I will always vote down obnoxious gloating, regardless of who does it or what the reason is. A good sport is gracious in victory and in defeat.

I still lame you tho.

[havok579257]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 01:14 AM' timestamp='1265609675' post='2053183']
The Colts also needed a new stadium in Baltimore too. The local politicians knew the fans there would continue to watch them in the old, outdated crumbling stadium with the traffic jams due to it being built in a residential area as they were loyal fans. I guess the financial loss to Baltimore is acceptable to you as it brought monies to your area, I wonder how many good catholic construction workers lived in the Baltimore area at the time. The difference being that Baltimore decided not to burden its citenzry with taxes that would burden[u] every [/u]taxpayer in Maryland, and would only benefit a relatively few local contractors. By the way, the Baltimore fans had a stadium, not a modern dome, it was only three sided so it held a lot less fans, but they still loved their team and showed up in droves. The ownership left, after receiving tax breaks and benefits in return of a promise by said owner he would not leave Baltimore either!

ed
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In 1971, Baltimore mayor William Donald Schaefer and the state's governor, Marvin Mandel, created a stadium committee to examine the city's stadium needs. Their report was a blow to Memorial Stadium. Some of the problems mentioned: 10,000 stadium's seats had views that were "less than desirable"; 20,000 seats were out-dated bench seats that had no back support; 7,000 so called seats were actually poorly constructed temporary bleachers that were installed for football games only. Also, there was not enough office space adequate enough for the front offices of either the Orioles or Colts, much less both teams combined. Both teams had to share locker rooms, the upper deck of Memorial Stadium did not circle the field, ending instead at the 50-yard line, thousands of potential seats (and added revenue) were missing. Any expansion plans for the stadium had usually mentioned less attractive (and less expensive) end-zone seats, not upper deck seating. And the number of bathroom facilities in Memorial Stadium was deemed inadequate.


doesn't sound like everything was peachy. and again, if you hate the colts for this, then you must hate almost half the nfl teams right now.

Edited February 8, 2010 by havok579257

[Maximilianus]

Ay qué alivio, el fútbol norteamericano acaba de terminar, ya es tiempo para el béisbol.
Wepaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!

[havok579257]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='08 February 2010 - 01:21 AM' timestamp='1265610070' post='2053187']
Thats football my friend, and yes its the game. Hits intended to take out a player were actually awarded with cash bounties at one time as I posted earlier. If football is too violent for you, perhaps instead of whining about it you should tune something else in. Do not turn to Nascar, as they try to wreck each other, nor baseball, they have brawls, or hockey very violent, do not look at soccer as even the fans get involved in the fights, I would warn you off any contact sports, heck even in bicyle racing they will knock eacjh other out of the race. You woul be safer watching ballet.

ed
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so you would think its perfectly ok if opening day next season ray lewis, after the the play is whistled dead, runs over and takes out big ben's knee thus ending his season and career?

i have no problem with violence in football, i love it. but breaking the rules intentionally to intentionally injure someone is never right. what's the point of the rules then? your going overboard to try and look right in this arguement, stop being over dramatic.

Edited February 8, 2010 by havok579257