I'm Entering

[tnavarro61]

[quote name='Staretz' date='24 March 2010 - 10:01 AM' timestamp='1269392511' post='2078695']
With us at least, an observership is a month. It can be longer in the case of older vocations. Yes, I know Dom Lawrence. He is one of our seminarians. He is currently back in the philipines because his mother is ill.
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a month... i never thought that could be that long! but well i guess i am confusing the terms.. i am going to observe monastic life there, but i don't know if it is proper to use "observership". i think observership is part of the formation already, is that correct?

[Starets]

[quote name='tnavarro61' date='23 March 2010 - 08:45 PM' timestamp='1269395111' post='2078723']
a month... i never thought that could be that long! but well i guess i am confusing the terms.. i am going to observe monastic life there, but i don't know if it is proper to use "observership". i think observership is part of the formation already, is that correct?
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It sounds like this might be more of an extended retreat than an observership. Here at least, if someone is making a vocational retreat, they won't live in the enclosure, they will be in our guest house. But, with an Observership, you live in the enclosure and partiocipate directly in the life and work of the community. You would still be doing that as a vocational retreatant, but your participation as an observer is more intense. You are also observed more closely by the community to see if you really do belong there.

[tnavarro61]

[quote name='Staretz' date='24 March 2010 - 11:22 AM' timestamp='1269397353' post='2078751']
It sounds like this might be more of an extended retreat than an observership. Here at least, if someone is making a vocational retreat, they won't live in the enclosure, they will be in our guest house. But, with an Observership, you live in the enclosure and partiocipate directly in the life and work of the community. You would still be doing that as a vocational retreatant, but your participation as an observer is more intense. You are also observed more closely by the community to see if you really do belong there.
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thank you very much! probably this is what i will be doing. i am sorry if i misused the term . the last sentence is bit scary! but that's okay . I do really pray that I am doing God's will. If I stay at the guesthouse, how will the retreat usually go?

do i have to bring lots of clothes? and will i do laundry works there just in case i'll stay for two weeks?

i would really like to ask these to the director but i'm bit shy! and the place must have a low cellphone signal so i can't contact them "properly".

thanks for the big help!

Edited March 24, 2010 by tnavarro61

[tnavarro61]

Update: I'll be staying for a week and it's up to me when. One step i need to do: ask permission from my father. prayers please!

Thomas

[Starets]

[quote name='tnavarro61' date='23 March 2010 - 10:10 PM' timestamp='1269400259' post='2078774']
thank you very much! probably this is what i will be doing. i am sorry if i misused the term . the last sentence is bit scary! but that's okay . I do really pray that I am doing God's will. If I stay at the guesthouse, how will the retreat usually go?

do i have to bring lots of clothes? and will i do laundry works there just in case i'll stay for two weeks?

i would really like to ask these to the director but i'm bit shy! and the place must have a low cellphone signal so i can't contact them "properly".

thanks for the big help!
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The way it works here is that you would join in for the Office and Mass and then you can do some work around the abbey. After all, floors need to be mopped, maintenance work needs to be done, that sort of thing. Or maybe there will be some extra work to do in the Business Office. Then the Vocation Director and maybe anotehr monk or two will chat with you about your possible vocation and about the community. Here at least, we don't allow guests to use our laundry room. There is no harm in asking once you arrive. You will only be there for two weeks so a single suitcase should be fine, I would think.

[tnavarro61]

[quote name='Staretz' date='25 March 2010 - 02:22 AM' timestamp='1269451370' post='2079107']
The way it works here is that you would join in for the Office and Mass and then you can do some work around the abbey. After all, floors need to be mopped, maintenance work needs to be done, that sort of thing. Or maybe there will be some extra work to do in the Business Office. Then the Vocation Director and maybe anotehr monk or two will chat with you about your possible vocation and about the community. Here at least, we don't allow guests to use our laundry room. There is no harm in asking once you arrive. You will only be there for two weeks so a single suitcase should be fine, I would think.
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thank you! i do really hope i have enough clothes for a week! i'll only be there for a week (unless i ask for an extension! ) Thank you very much!