Seceding States And Counties

[Nihil Obstat]

Edit:
I think I'm on the wrong thread.....

Edited July 13, 2010 by Nihil Obstat

[Sternhauser]

"If any state in the Union will declare that it prefers separation . . . to a continuance in the union . . . I have no hesitation in saying, 'Let us separate.'" --Thomas Jefferson, after the attempted secession of the New England Federalists.

"At Virginia's ratification convention, the delegates said, 'The powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the People of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression.'

In Federalist Paper 39, James Madison, the father of the Constitution, cleared up what 'the people' meant, saying the proposed Constitution would be subject to ratification by the people, 'not as individuals composing one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong."

[url="http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/politics/rights/1543-States-Have-Right-Secession.html"]Link.[/url]

~Sternhauser

Edited July 17, 2010 by Sternhauser

[SaintOfVirtue]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='12 July 2010 - 01:52 PM' timestamp='1278967956' post='2141800']
SOV, the legal way to succeed is to rescind the states ratification of the constitution. It was ratified voluntarily by the state and therefore the state can voluntarily opt out of that agreement. Obviously once they rescind the Constitution it loses all force of law in that state.

The Supreme courts argument about "perpetual union" being in the articles of confederation and the constitution creating a "more perfect union" are terrible. Who's to say it's not a 'more perfect union' precisely because states continue to stay in it voluntarily? IMO, the phrase "perpetual union" was not included in the Constitution purposefully, keeping it the right of the State to ratify or rescind the Constitution at any time.
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