Neo-Catholicism

[Laudate_Dominum]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Catholicism

Notable Neo-Catholic Apologists
Jimmy Akin
Scott Hahn
Karl Keating

I like Akin, Hahn and Keating, but I also prefer the EF Mass and dislike Neoconservatism... Maybe I'm a Pseudo-Neo-Catholic?

Btw, I assume there will be some debate here but that is not the point of this thread. It is just for amusement and lame factor. I actually think the term is silly and laughed out loud when I stumbled upon the wikipedia page.

[Sternhauser]

I deny the very existence of "neo-Catholics."

Looks like Thomas Woods, Jr. originally used the term as a gentle synonym for "non-Catholic." Or better yet, "apostate."

~Sternhauser

Edited May 9, 2010 by Sternhauser

[Laudate_Dominum]

You are [i]The One[/i] Neo.

[IMG]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/variosity/matrixpriest.jpg[/IMG]

[Vincent Vega]

I am an orthodox Catholic.

[CatherineM]

I am an Irish Catholic.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='CatherineM' date='08 May 2010 - 10:10 PM' timestamp='1273371008' post='2107362']
I am an Irish Catholic.
[/quote]
God gave rock and roll to everyone.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHBwryfycvk[/media]

[rhetoricfemme]

I'm gonna go ahead and call myself a soon-to-be Roman Catholic.

It kinda feels like there are too many far-too-intricate labels and that subcultures like to break down into even smaller subcultures. Everyone wants to stand out, and I think that could be part of the reason things can get so divisive.

I don't mean in Catholicism, per se, but everywhere. But that's not to say that it can't happen in Catholicism, too...

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='rhetoricfemme' date='09 May 2010 - 12:10 AM' timestamp='1273381858' post='2107518']
I'm gonna go ahead and call myself a soon-to-be Roman Catholic.

It kinda feels like there are too many far-too-intricate labels and that subcultures like to break down into even smaller subcultures. Everyone wants to stand out, and I think that could be part of the reason things can get so divisive.

I don't mean in Catholicism, per se, but everywhere. But that's not to say that it can't happen in Catholicism, too...
[/quote]
Officially on my FB page, I say "Orthodox Roman Catholic with Traditionalist Tendencies", although I could just as easily say Orthodox or Traditionalist Roman Catholic, and both would be correct. Heck, just plain old Catholic would be correct, but the reason I don't say that is because I try to express that this sort of thing needs to be taken seriously.
People make things so complicated.

Edited May 9, 2010 by Nihil Obstat

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='rhetoricfemme' date='09 May 2010 - 01:10 AM' timestamp='1273381858' post='2107518']
It kinda feels like there are too many far-too-intricate labels and that subcultures like to break down into even smaller subcultures.
[/quote]
Yeah, that's kind of what I found funny about that article. It just seemed really absurd to me. haha. Also it makes me think of Neo from the Matrix which is cool.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='09 May 2010 - 12:44 AM' timestamp='1273383889' post='2107541']
Officially on my FB page, I say "Orthodox Roman Catholic with Traditionalist Tendencies", although I could just as easily say Orthodox or Traditionalist Roman Catholic, and both would be correct. Heck, just plain old Catholic would be correct, but the reason I don't say that is because I try to express that this sort of thing needs to be taken seriously.
People make things so complicated.
[/quote]
My political views section, on the other hand.....

I think I'm going to change it to "Eschatological Catholic Monarchy, and Tentative Paleolibertarianism in the meantime."

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='08 May 2010 - 07:21 PM' timestamp='1273364486' post='2107213']
I am an orthodox Catholic.
[/quote]

I am an orthodox Catholic traditionalist.

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='09 May 2010 - 02:17 AM' timestamp='1273385839' post='2107560']
I am an orthodox Catholic traditionalist.
[/quote]

IANWP!!!!

[aalpha1989]

sorry for ruining this wonderfully serious thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cEdqWZi13I&playnext_from=TL&videos=GHSTojfje6w Edited May 9, 2010 by aalpha1989

[Bennn]

I've only recently given in to traditionalism. I used to think everything is fine as long as the Vatican did/does or said/says it. Then someone *cough*Resurrexi*cough* refuted my views on what the Magisterium actually is and that was the breakthrough for me. The Pope is infallible when it comes to faith and morals but he can make mistakes in disciplinary matters. I do sometimes still have some weak moments, though, when I doubt whether traditionalism is correct. But whenever that happens, God is quick to smack some sense into my head.

Pax Domini,
Ben

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='09 May 2010 - 02:17 AM' timestamp='1273385839' post='2107560']
I am an orthodox Catholic traditionalist.
[/quote]
[quote name='Bennn' date='09 May 2010 - 07:37 AM' timestamp='1273405025' post='2107622']
I've only recently given in to traditionalism. I used to think everything is fine as long as the Vatican did/does or said/says it. Then someone *cough*Resurrexi*cough* refuted my views on what the Magisterium actually is and that was the breakthrough for me. The Pope is infallible when it comes to faith and morals but he can make mistakes in disciplinary matters. I do sometimes still have some weak moments, though, when I doubt whether traditionalism is correct. But whenever that happens, God is quick to smack some sense into my head.

Pax Domini,
Ben
[/quote]
+1

Rexi is pretty win.

[john654]

Hi,
Every Catholic must be traditional, orthodox, evangelical, ETC. In short OBEDIENT, Anyone else is Protestant! Neo-protestant like the SSPX or just an old time Protestant, like Luther. If a person wants to be Catholic they have to be Obedient, even unto death, just like Jesus. So pray for the grace to be an Obedient Catholic, that's what I do.

John

[rhetoricfemme]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='09 May 2010 - 01:44 AM' timestamp='1273383889' post='2107541']
Officially on my FB page, I say "Orthodox Roman Catholic with Traditionalist Tendencies", although I could just as easily say Orthodox or Traditionalist Roman Catholic, and both would be correct. Heck, just plain old Catholic would be correct, but the reason I don't say that is because I try to express that this sort of thing needs to be taken seriously.
People make things so complicated.
[/quote]
Yep, it's definitely the people making things complicated.

::rolls up sleeves:: I'm going to try to explain myself without running off on a tangent and/or losing my point, lol. I think there's a difference between titles and labels. We've got orders like Dominicans and Franciscans and so forth, and those are great. Those remind me more of titles and lifestyles. They adhere to the Church, but also have another set of disciplines or practices that they tack on to that.

And then this Neo-Catholic concept. Given, this is the first time I've heard the phrase, so I don't know how ingrained or long-standing a term it is, or if it can really define a group of Catholics. Like Scott Hahn? I just consider him a Roman Catholic, and a great example for converts. It just seems like Neo-Catholic would be more of a title that is put onto a person or group by others, not something a person would choose to call themselves. It seems like more of a label that someone has slapped on them when other people are watching them through the window and only see a little bit of what's going on. And those types of terms I think we can do without.

You're right, too, that introducing oneself as also being Orthodox or Traditionalist can be helpful, because the Church should be taken seriously. Even if those labels are redundant to true Catholicism, adding those labels could possibly help someone who is more lax in their discipline to understand that the Church is a package deal.

So yeah. I guess labels walk a fine line. You take the good, you take the bad, and there you have the facts of life. So sorry, I couldn't help that last part. I've been doing that a lot lately...

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='09 May 2010 - 01:52 AM' timestamp='1273384368' post='2107547']
My political views section, on the other hand.....

I think I'm going to change it to "Eschatological Catholic Monarchy, and Tentative Paleolibertarianism in the meantime."
[/quote]
Do it!

[quote name='john654' date='09 May 2010 - 09:42 AM' timestamp='1273412529' post='2107644']
Hi,
Every Catholic must be traditional, orthodox, evangelical, ETC. In short OBEDIENT, Anyone else is Protestant! Neo-protestant like the SSPX or just an old time Protestant, like Luther. If a person wants to be Catholic they have to be Obedient, even unto death, just like Jesus. So pray for the grace to be an Obedient Catholic, that's what I do.

John
[/quote]

Edited May 9, 2010 by rhetoricfemme

[Nihil Obstat]

(I did it. )

[mortify]

[size="4"][i]Can you define "Neo-Catholicism"?[/i][/size]

[Socrates]

From what I've seen, this looks like a term coined by "rad-trads" to refer to any orthodox Catholics who aren't "rad-trads."
Especially those awful converts from protestantism. Just can't trust those converts in the Church.

I don't know of anybody who identifies himself as "neo-Catholic."
The term is bs, and should be scrapped. And I say this as one who attends the old Latin mass.