Catholicculture Gives Us A Yellow Rating :(

[LouisvilleFan]

[quote name='Lil Red' date='06 June 2010 - 12:43 PM' timestamp='1275838995' post='2124590']
+JMJ+
totally agreed - they also gave Godspy a yellow rating, which is total baloney because they are a CL organization, which is totally faithful to the Church.
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What's the deal with Godspy, though? I keep checking the site every once in a while to see what's new and nothing ever is.

[Luthien]

[quote name='LouisvilleFan' date='06 June 2010 - 04:08 PM' timestamp='1275847736' post='2124647']
What's the deal with Godspy, though? I keep checking the site every once in a while to see what's new and nothing ever is.
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Yeah I just visited them today, and nothing has been updated for almost a year...

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Semper Catholic' date='06 June 2010 - 11:11 AM' timestamp='1275844292' post='2124629']
Also no youtube video of Coldplay's Yellow? You guys are slackin.
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That was posted yesterday in the [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=105807&view=findpost&p=2124275"]Thread for Celebrating the Yellowing of Phatmass[/url].

[MIKolbe]

[quote name='Raphael' date='06 June 2010 - 02:02 PM' timestamp='1275847358' post='2124641']
Some people might find you to be a chump.
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that may be... but they DEFINITELY don't find me handsome!!










wait..wha.....

[Jaime]

I can't remember what happened the last time. I made some video of elf dancing and because the elfen software gave beeker boobs, we got a yellow card?

[MIKolbe]

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[Maggyie]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='05 June 2010 - 01:54 PM' timestamp='1275756855' post='2124104']
Penultimate means "second last".

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Oh my God!!! You got me!!!! My English professors are sharpening their knives even as we speak! [b]They eat brains!!!![/b]

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Maggie' date='06 June 2010 - 02:52 PM' timestamp='1275853979' post='2124713']
Oh my God!!! You got me!!!! My English professors are sharpening their knives even as we speak! [b]They eat brains!!!![/b]
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I mention that one whenever it comes up because once years ago I used the word incorrectly, and while nobody noticed, it still eats away at my soul. Sometimes I wake up in a cold sweat when I remember that somewhere out there, there may be evidence that I used "penultimate" incorrectly and never had the opportunity to repudiate my errors. I just don't want you to go down the same dark, disturbing road I walked down in those fateful days of yore. It's not too late for you to save yourself, but you have to believe! Accept Webster as your personal pocket companion and return to the light that is correct usage and style!

[Socrates]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='05 June 2010 - 01:11 PM' timestamp='1275757889' post='2124115']
Trashing Catholic Culture is going a little overboard here. They are an outstanding website, and I for one have always appreciated their rating system. They have never once stated that they represent the Magisterium and everyone is completely free to ignore them completely or disagree with their assessment. I have made use of their website ratings numerous times in professional work to find examples of why various publishers and websites are unfaithful and should be avoided. Of course, I have to assess whether or not I agree with their rating first.

Their resources are outstanding as a whole, even if not perfect, their site is well designed, and they seek to be completely faithful to the Church in every way, even "faithful to a fault", but I would prefer their err on the side of going overboard with orthodoxy than to call what really is unfaithful "faithful".

The one weakness with Catholic Culture's rating of phatmass is that a website should be rated based on the actual publications of the organization. There rating is like rating fox news articles by the comments users post, or the Church by the pedophile priests in it. It is unfair.
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Totally agree here - one of the few voices of reason and balance in this thread. (I thought this was a bit ironic, as Bro. Adam and I got in an online fight on the topic of CatholicCulture.org some years ago.)

Thought I'd add some points:

1) I've known the founders of CatholicCulture.org for most of my life, and they're truly good people, and faithful Catholics. Founder Dr. Jeffrey Mirus (who also founded Trinity Communications, and before that was a founding member of Christendom College), is a good, hardworking man, who's devoted much of his life to work involving the spreading of the Catholic Faith (mostly at no financial gain to himself. He and the other members of Catholic Culture are orthodox Catholics in good standing, who try to stay loyal to the magisterium. Dr. Mirus continues to write high-quality articles on Catholicism, some of which were recently linked to and discussed on Phatmass. Saying that Catholic Culture has "gone off the deep end" based on one poorly-conceived review caution is not fair.
Those accusing them of "iffy" theology and such need to provide something more substantial to back up their claims.
A lot of the bashing and trashing of Catholic Culture going on here is at least border-line slander of people you know virtually nothing about, and quite frankly has no place on a "Catholic" message board.

2) Yes, I think the whole issue with the movies on there was silly and wrong-headed on their part (and there's really no way of knowing who's responsible at this point- could be clueless newb on their staff). However, their review of Phatmass was on the whole quite positive, and gave some strong praise, with only a few notes of caution. It was far from a trashing or condemnation of Phatmass. (This can be contrasted to the orgy of condemnation and ridicule of CatholicCulture going on among some in this thread.)
While, as noted, I disagree with some points, I myself would probably issue similar cautions about this board, which could be confusing for those not already having a solid knowledge of orthodox Catholic teaching. I wouldn't say the problems are the fault of the Phatmass administration so much as inherent to the nature of any internet message board where absolutely anyone can wander in and post their $.02 worth.

3) CatholicCulture.org nowhere claims infallibility in its reviews, nor do they claim that anyone who disagrees with them is schismatic or not Catholic.
Any reviews of this kind are going to be fallible and somewhat subjective. Their ratings are in essence no different from any other such reviews, such Consumer Reports' ratings of products, or an entertainment magazine's reviews and ratings of movies and music.
The reviews are not infallible, but I'd say they are overall good, and perform a valuable service for those looking for solid Catholic material on the web.
To completely trash Catholic Culture based on a disagreement over part of a site review is uncalled for. I've seen plenty of stupid garbage posted on Phatmass. Should we thus condemn Phatmass altogether?

Everyone needs to step back, say a prayer, and put things in perspective.
When Catholics spend their efforts attacking and condemning other orthodox Catholics, rather than working together to fight the greater evils in the world, you know the devil is laughing.

[Marie-Therese]

[quote name='Semper Catholic' date='06 June 2010 - 01:11 PM' timestamp='1275844292' post='2124629']
Just more street cred for phatmass IMO.

This is a place where you can debate, opine, and discuss. Not all of which will fall directly along the company line. If anything yellow is a good place to be.

Also no youtube video of Coldplay's Yellow? You guys are slackin.
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I did that yesterday in the lame board.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Maggie' date='05 June 2010 - 11:58 AM' timestamp='1275753502' post='2124082']
I think their whole rating system is ridiculous anyway. They are the penultimate example of trying to (tm) Catholic orthodoxy - THEIR version of orthodoxy. So there is only one opinion Catholics are allowed to have about movies like "Get Him to the Greek"? Nah, don't think so.
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So, they're the second-to-last example of trying to (tm) Catholic orthodoxy? (That's what "penultimate" means, kids. Look it up.)

Of course it's totally good, on the other hand, for the Ever-So-Much-Better-Than-Those-Stupid-Orthodox-Catholics(tm)crowd on Phatmass to sit around heaping condemnation and scorn on those who disagree with them.


"O God, I give you thanks that I am not as the rest of those Pharisees!"

[Socrates]

[quote name='Socrates' date='06 June 2010 - 04:12 PM' timestamp='1275855179' post='2124741']
Totally agree here - one of the few voices of reason and balance in this thread. (I thought this was a bit ironic, as Bro. Adam and I got in an online fight on the topic of CatholicCulture.org some years ago.)

Thought I'd add some points:

1) I've known the founders of CatholicCulture.org for most of my life, and they're truly good people, and faithful Catholics. Founder Dr. Jeffrey Mirus (who also founded Trinity Communications, and before that was a founding member of Christendom College), is a good, hardworking man, who's devoted much of his life to work involving the spreading of the Catholic Faith (mostly at no financial gain to himself. He and the other members of Catholic Culture are orthodox Catholics in good standing, who try to stay loyal to the magisterium. Dr. Mirus continues to write high-quality articles on Catholicism, some of which were recently linked to and discussed on Phatmass. Saying that Catholic Culture has "gone off the deep end" based on one poorly-conceived review caution is not fair.
Those accusing them of "iffy" theology and such need to provide something more substantial to back up their claims.
A lot of the bashing and trashing of Catholic Culture going on here is at least border-line slander of people you know virtually nothing about, and quite frankly has no place on a "Catholic" message board.

2) Yes, I think the whole issue with the movies on there was silly and wrong-headed on their part (and there's really no way of knowing who's responsible at this point- could be clueless newb on their staff). However, their review of Phatmass was on the whole quite positive, and gave some strong praise, with only a few notes of caution. It was far from a trashing or condemnation of Phatmass. (This can be contrasted to the orgy of condemnation and ridicule of CatholicCulture going on among some in this thread.)
While, as noted, I disagree with some points, I myself would probably issue similar cautions about this board, which could be confusing for those not already having a solid knowledge of orthodox Catholic teaching. I wouldn't say the problems are the fault of the Phatmass administration so much as inherent to the nature of any internet message board where absolutely anyone can wander in and post their $.02 worth.

3) CatholicCulture.org nowhere claims infallibility in its reviews, nor do they claim that anyone who disagrees with them is schismatic or not Catholic.
Any reviews of this kind are going to be fallible and somewhat subjective. Their ratings are in essence no different from any other such reviews, such Consumer Reports' ratings of products, or an entertainment magazine's reviews and ratings of movies and music.
The reviews are not infallible, but I'd say they are overall good, and perform a valuable service for those looking for solid Catholic material on the web.
To completely trash Catholic Culture based on a disagreement over part of a site review is uncalled for. I've seen plenty of stupid garbage posted on Phatmass. Should we thus condemn Phatmass altogether?

Everyone needs to step back, say a prayer, and put things in perspective.
When Catholics spend their efforts attacking and condemning other orthodox Catholics, rather than working together to fight the greater evils in the world, you know the devil is laughing.
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What's with the "-1"? For contradicting Phatmass mob sentiment?

[Marie-Therese]

[quote name='Socrates' date='06 June 2010 - 04:21 PM' timestamp='1275855701' post='2124757']
So, they're the second-to-last example of trying to (tm) Catholic orthodoxy? (That's what "penultimate" means, kids. Look it up.)

Of course it's totally good, on the other hand, for the Ever-So-Much-Better-Than-Those-Stupid-Orthodox-Catholics(tm)crowd on Phatmass to sit around heaping condemnation and scorn on those who disagree with them.


"O God, I give you thanks that I am not as the rest of those Pharisees!"
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Your tone is dangerously close to what you are accusing the others of. Maggie had already been apprised of her misuse of the word penultimate.

Slinging the word Pharisee around is pretty inflammatory. I'd advise you that, if Catholic fidelity and charity is your concern, then a loving admonishment of your brethren would do much better than a contemptful, condescending one.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Socrates' date='06 June 2010 - 02:25 PM' timestamp='1275855918' post='2124759']
What's with the "-1"? For contradicting Phatmass mob sentiment?
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I would give you a +1, but I don't have any left at the moment.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Socrates' date='06 June 2010 - 02:25 PM' timestamp='1275855918' post='2124759']
What's with the "-1"? For contradicting Phatmass mob sentiment?
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My +1 finally was accepted. God bless.