Hilde Posted June 20, 2010 Posted June 20, 2010 (edited) Well, I know about at least two. I'm leaning towards Dominican, but the carmelites have some magnetizing qualities too. I have never met or visited carmelites so I can't be certain. Edited June 20, 2010 by Hilde
Hilde Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='aalpha1989' date='20 June 2010 - 09:35 PM' timestamp='1277058921' post='2131773'] Nah, no Carmelites. [/quote] Yeah can't see any.
TeresaBenedicta Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 I do have a growing appreciation and love for the Carmelites. The tradition (and Saints) of the Carmel tradition have helped me greatly in my own spiritual life. Very helpful in growing in prayer. And I have a great love for, well, quite a few Carmelite saints-- St. Teresa Benedicta (obviously, haha), St. Teresa of Avila, Bl. Elizabeth of the Trinity, St. John of the Cross... (I have to admit that I do not share the profusely popular love of St. Therese. She's wonderful and I think she's great but I have no personal 'connection' with her.) I don't think I have a call to Carmel, although it does appeal to me. I think if there were a mixture of Dominican and Carmelite, I would be there in an instant. The Carmelite prayer tradition with the Dominican love of study and learning. It's funny... I think sometimes I'm a spiritual "mutt". I basically take the parts of each spirituality that really resonate with me and then combine them into this strange mixture that somehow manages to work for me.
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='aalpha1989' date='20 June 2010 - 01:35 PM' timestamp='1277058921' post='2131773'] Nah, no Carmelites. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/saint.gif[/img] [/quote] [quote name='Hilde' date='20 June 2010 - 11:31 PM' timestamp='1277094684' post='2132067'] Yeah can't see any. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol.gif[/img] [/quote] Nunsense is currently on a three month live-in with a Carmelite community. And, Vee8 is showing some Carmelite tendencies, but since she's not wild about Therese I wonder about whether she wouldn't be happier with the Dominicans.[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] Poor Vee8, she takes so much grief from us!
Hilde Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 Ok, so I count 4 now. Keep em coming. BTW: carmel sounds like caramel.
vee Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='21 June 2010 - 12:40 AM' timestamp='1277098827' post='2132105'] Nunsense is currently on a three month live-in with a Carmelite community. And, Vee8 is showing some Carmelite tendencies, but since she's not wild about Therese I wonder about whether she wouldn't be happier with the Dominicans.[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] Poor Vee8, she takes so much grief from us! [/quote] I'm all for whatever God wants and I'm happy there is a place like VS to come to, grief or not for support in the whole process.
miserere Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='Hilde' date='21 June 2010 - 12:46 AM' timestamp='1277099217' post='2132109'] Ok, so I count 4 now. Keep em coming. [/quote] You can count me as a tentative Carmelite.
Chiquitunga Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='TeresaBenedicta' date='21 June 2010 - 12:35 AM' timestamp='1277098505' post='2132103'] I don't think I have a call to Carmel, although it does appeal to me. I think if there were a mixture of Dominican and Carmelite, I would be there in an instant. The Carmelite prayer tradition with the Dominican love of study and learning.[/quote] http://www.communityofstjohn.com/ They are definitely a Dominican and Carmelite mix all the way!
Cherie Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='Chiquitunga' date='21 June 2010 - 11:12 AM' timestamp='1277133132' post='2132185'] [url="http://www.communityofstjohn.com/"]http://www.communityofstjohn.com/[/url] They are definitely a Dominican and Carmelite mix all the way! [/quote] LOVE the Community of St. John! LOVE, LOVE, LOVE!!! They actually also have Cistercian roots - the original brothers spent their novitiate with a Cistercian community in France.
Cherie Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='TeresaBenedicta' date='21 June 2010 - 01:35 AM' timestamp='1277098505' post='2132103'] I don't think I have a call to Carmel, although it does appeal to me. I think if there were a mixture of Dominican and Carmelite, I would be there in an instant. The Carmelite prayer tradition with the Dominican love of study and learning. [/quote] Chiquitunga is right ... have you ever looked at the Community of St. John?!?!
TeresaBenedicta Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 What a beautiful community!! Y'all trying to tempt me, or something?! Seriously though, they seem like an amazing community.
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='Hilde' date='21 June 2010 - 12:46 AM' timestamp='1277099217' post='2132109'] BTW: carmel sounds like caramel. [/quote] In the U.S., it's not unusual to see the word "caramel" prounced like "carmel." In my case, I normally pronouce caramel with three syllables--"care-uh-mel,"--but for whatever reason, when I talk about caramel apples, which I love (that is, fresh apples dipped in caramel), I call them "car-mul apples." I think some people may prounce caramel and carmel the same way all the time.
Cherie Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='TeresaBenedicta' date='21 June 2010 - 02:43 PM' timestamp='1277145789' post='2132291'] What a beautiful community!! Y'all trying to tempt me, or something?! Seriously though, they seem like an amazing community. [/quote] Do you have another community you are seriously discerning with, or set to enter? If not, I'm serious -- you definitely should look into this community - they have active Sisters ("apostolic" Sisters) and contemplative Sisters! I had the opportunity to spend a week with them in the contemplative Sisters' US novitiate in Illinois. I was a Sister at the time, so I was privileged to stay in the cloister, in one of the Sisters' cells. The cells are set up almost exactly like a Carmelite's (that's the first thing I thought of when I went into the room) -- they are very austere, with an old mattress that sits on the floor, among other BEAUTIFUL austerities. They were founded by a Dominican, so they are VERY much into learning, as a Dominican would -- they tend to focus on philosophy, because they feel that the lack of correct philosophical training is part of the major problem of our world today, especially among young people. But they have a very beautiful, structured prayer life, [u]very[/u] contemplative charism, and they are also very austere -- much like a Carmelite. Seriously, if you aren't already set on another community, please look into the Sisters of St. John!!!
TeresaBenedicta Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='CherieMadame' date='21 June 2010 - 03:56 PM' timestamp='1277146594' post='2132293'] Do you have another community you are seriously discerning with, or set to enter? If not, I'm serious -- you definitely should look into this community - they have active Sisters ("apostolic" Sisters) and contemplative Sisters! I had the opportunity to spend a week with them in the contemplative Sisters' US novitiate in Illinois. I was a Sister at the time, so I was privileged to stay in the cloister, in one of the Sisters' cells. The cells are set up almost exactly like a Carmelite's (that's the first thing I thought of when I went into the room) -- they are very austere, with an old mattress that sits on the floor, among other BEAUTIFUL austerities. They were founded by a Dominican, so they are VERY much into learning, as a Dominican would -- they tend to focus on philosophy, because they feel that [b]the lack of correct philosophical training is part of the major problem of our world today, especially among young people. [/b] But they have a very beautiful, structured prayer life, [u]very[/u] contemplative charism, and they are also very austere -- much like a Carmelite. Seriously, if you aren't already set on another community, please look into the Sisters of St. John!!! [/quote] If I weren't pretty much set to enter with a different community (as soon as my loan situation allows), I'd seriously take a look into this community. I've devoured their website-- and I keep thinking to myself, [i]Wonder what've happened if I stumbled across this early on in my discernment?[/i] PS The bolded part. Definitely true. So, so true.
Cherie Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='TeresaBenedicta' date='21 June 2010 - 03:13 PM' timestamp='1277147585' post='2132301'] If I weren't pretty much set to enter with a different community (as soon as my loan situation allows) [/quote] I couldn't remember if that were the case or not. I'm sure the community you are set to enter is just as lovely! Be assured of my prayers!!
OnlySunshine Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='21 June 2010 - 01:40 AM' timestamp='1277098827' post='2132105'] And, Vee8 is showing some Carmelite tendencies, but since she's not wild about Therese I wonder about whether she wouldn't be happier with the Dominicans.[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] Poor Vee8, she takes so much grief from us! [/quote] We'll get her, sooner or later...
vee Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' date='21 June 2010 - 02:56 PM' timestamp='1277150169' post='2132327'] We'll get her, sooner or later... [/quote] Welcome to the Carmelite thread MM Would you like to join the calced or discalced?
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