Where Would You Rather Live?

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Lilllabettt' date='09 July 2010 - 01:27 PM' timestamp='1278700031' post='2139976']
White martyrdom or red martyrdom?

Red all the way. I'm too milktoast to hold out for decades.

So .. the Islamic one, I guess.
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If someone implies that you're supporting Sharia law, my life will be complete. That would totally rock my world.

I'm saying that with perfect, innocent, agenda-less sincerity!!

[Apotheoun]

I voted for extreme secularism, because it is more likely to be overthrown in the long run.

[Vincent Vega]

Secular:
1. I would at least have some freedom of speech and certainly freedom of religion (or be at least persecuted in a less...'mortal' way)
2. Things like reversing the legalisation of abortion would not be impossible (many secular humanists are pro-life).

There is something to be said for those who are strong enough to endure martyrdom to the point of death. I do not believe that I am that strong.

Edited July 23, 2010 by USAirwaysIHS

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='23 July 2010 - 04:40 PM' timestamp='1279921205' post='2147167']
There is something to be said for those who are strong enough to endure martyrdom to the point of death. I do not believe that I am that strong.
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I'd like to believe I am, but I'll bet I'd be a bit of a wimp when it comes to torture.

[MissScripture]

[quote name='HisChildForever' date='09 July 2010 - 11:46 AM' timestamp='1278690362' post='2139902']
Since I prefer to be treated as a person and not a commodity, I voted for the first option.
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So you're saying women are not treated like a commodity in secular society? I'd have to disagree with that.

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='MissScripture' date='23 July 2010 - 04:59 PM' timestamp='1279922344' post='2147190']
So you're saying women are not treated like a commodity in secular society? I'd have to disagree with that.
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Good catch; guess I missed that one. I'd have to agree with you (in terms of disagreeing, i guess? ). Yes, I think women are very often treated as commodities in extremely secular societies. Lord, help us.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='MissScripture' date='23 July 2010 - 05:59 PM' timestamp='1279922344' post='2147190']
So you're saying women are not treated like a commodity in secular society? I'd have to disagree with that.
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Compared to Islamic societies where women have virtually no rights? Again, I pick secular.

[Winchester]

Is it martyrdom when you suffocate under the weight of the corpses of your enemies?

[sixpence]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='23 July 2010 - 05:54 PM' timestamp='1279922063' post='2147184']
I'd like to believe I am, but I'll bet I'd be a bit of a wimp when it comes to torture.
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I second that!

[Hassan]

Anywhere but the Carolinas...

[Winchester]

I have a daughter and I'd rather not have to kill every male in an entire country lest she be forced into marriage or stoned for wearing the wrong outfit. So I pick secular.

And yeah, I think Christians in Muslim nations under sharia law should violently revolt.