Anastasia13 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) *bump* http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/topic/107542-eastern-christian-tag/page__st__100 too Edited October 31, 2012 by Light and Truth
vee Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam' timestamp='1281825496' post='2157460'] Would their be a distinction in tags between Eastern Catholics who are in communion with the Pope and Eastern Christians who are not in communion> Eastern Catholic Button and an Eastern Christian or Eastern Orthodox Button. [/quote] this
Anastasia13 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) [quote name='vee8' timestamp='1351647839' post='2500793'] this [/quote] Well, you can always keep us Orthodox non-papists separate if you want. That way things won't get confusing if an Eastern Rite becomes a Church Scholar. That is probably the easiest, since we won't say entirely the same things on doctrine every now and then. In an ideal world, and this may be more than Dust would want to get into now, we would have separate ones for Eastern Catholic and for Orthodox, but that may be more than Dust would be tolerant/ of/able to be getting into now. Edited October 31, 2012 by Light and Truth
vee Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 since this place seems to get maybe one new church scholar per year its not likely a pressing issue.
Anastasia13 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='vee8' timestamp='1351648419' post='2500802'] since this place seems to get maybe one new church scholar per year its not likely a pressing issue. [/quote] You're right. Would it be an issue with Church Militant?
Aloysius Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I think a general Eastern Christian encompassing both the Eastern Rite Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox is more palatable for a site like this, because many positions that are sometimes espoused by Eastern Rite Catholics are pretty unpalatable to Roman sensibilities and result in clashes... I mean, the Catholic Melkite Patriarch would most certainly never be able to maintain a Church Militant tag here based on his positions, for instance, so it stands to reason certain Eastern Catholics would also from time to time come into clash; and it would therefore likely be easier if they were listed along with Eastern Orthodox posters in an "Eastern Christian" group that did not therefore indicate that they "rep-the-pope" necessarily, as is the implication of the Church Militant tag.
Anastasia13 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1351649251' post='2500821'] I think a general Eastern Christian encompassing both the Eastern Rite Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox is more palatable for a site like this, because many positions that are sometimes espoused by Eastern Rite Catholics are pretty unpalatable to Roman sensibilities and result in clashes... I mean, the Catholic Melkite Patriarch would most certainly never be able to maintain a Church Militant tag here based on his positions, for instance, so it stands to reason certain Eastern Catholics would also from time to time come into clash; and it would therefore likely be easier if they were listed along with Eastern Orthodox posters in an "Eastern Christian" group that did not therefore indicate that they "rep-the-pope" necessarily, as is the implication of the Church Militant tag. [/quote] Good post and good reasoning. Am curious though. You said, "the Catholic Melkite Patriarch would most certainly never be able to maintain a Church Militant tag here based on his positions," what positions differ that could be an issue? Married priests? Liturgical calendar?
Aloysius Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Apo would probably be able to give the reasoning better along with the quotes, I'll see if I can find some of them, but it's more along the lines of only recognizing the first 7 ecumenical councils and having certain problems with the papacy especially as defined by Vaticans I and II... which the Melkites are given a bit of leeway to get away with at the higher levels that us Romans don't really get and that most faithful Romans kind of disagree with or at least don't understand.
Anastasia13 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1351649987' post='2500830'] Apo would probably be able to give the reasoning better along with the quotes, I'll see if I can find some of them, but it's more along the lines of only recognizing the first 7 ecumenical councils and having certain problems with the papacy especially as defined by Vaticans I and II... which the Melkites are given a bit of leeway to get away with at the higher levels that us Romans don't really get and that most faithful Romans kind of disagree with or at least don't understand. [/quote] Fascinating. I wonder if Maronites are like that too. Well. We have solved the question and found the best solution. Now we just need to get it to happen. Edited October 31, 2012 by Light and Truth
cmaD2006 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Guys ... this is a thread that's way over a year old. Maybe PM/email dUSt about it instead of reviving an old thread. Groo ... oh Groo, where are you?
Roamin Catholic Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1351726580' post='2501490'] Guys ... this is a thread that's way over a year old. Maybe PM/email dUSt about it instead of reviving an old thread. Groo ... oh Groo, where are you? [/quote] Got to love spamming with bumps.
Anastasia13 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 [quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1351726580' post='2501490'] Guys ... this is a thread that's way over a year old. Maybe PM/email dUSt about it instead of reviving an old thread. Groo ... oh Groo, where are you? [/quote] If you read my thread "Dust..." You might notice that I was already discussing this with Dust. This thread is relevant because of record of discussion, historical precedent of interest, and the current discussion that Aloysius and I have just had.
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