Former Stripper And Lapdancer Turned Nun

[Deusdedit]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5100867/Lap-dancing-nun-to-perform-for-cardinals-and-bishops.html

Here is here testimony on YouTube for those of you who speak Italian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6oD-RFbhkI

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6oD-RFbhkI

She now runs a dance shool teaching and performing modern Christian dance called Holy Dance: http://www.holydance.it/

[Deusdedit]

oops posted the same video twice, here is the other video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6OBxy2-zqg&feature=related

[organwerke]

Ah ah I know her and her story (she also took part in TV shows in Italy) and admire her, even if, let me say, I find strange sometimes that her order has very "fashionable" habits and also it is odd to see her taking off her veil and doing a dance in front of Jesus!

[Deusdedit]

I know what you mean! She also said in the 1st video that she still wears make-up and you can quite clearly see that she is wearing make-up in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LuK9RMRJ1Y&feature=related


Is it just me or does anyone else think a nun wearing make-up is a bit of contradiction in terms?

[Hinter dem Horizont]

[quote name='Deusdedit' timestamp='1289417434' post='2186245']
I know what you mean! She also said in the 1st video that she still wears make-up and you can quite clearly see that she is wearing make-up in this video:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LuK9RMRJ1Y&feature=related[/media]


Is it just me or does anyone else think a nun wearing make-up is a bit of contradiction in terms?
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Very contradictory indeed. Her story is very lovely but religious orders are supposed to leave the vanity of the world. This girl has definitely not given all that up.

[loveletslive]

weird...it's like she's only half committed or something. still being attached to makeup seems so silly!

Edited November 10, 2010 by loveletslive

[Klaudi87]

[quote name='organwerke' timestamp='1289395834' post='2186179']
Ah ah I know her and her story (she also took part in TV shows in Italy) and admire her, even if, let me say, I find strange sometimes that her order has very "fashionable" habits and also it is odd to see her taking off her veil and doing a dance in front of Jesus!
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That is wierd

[HopefulBride]

what order is this?

[organwerke]

[quote name='HopefulBride' timestamp='1289426173' post='2186290']
what order is this?
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It is "Suore operaie della Santa Casa di Nazareth".

Here is the link of their website (in Italian):
http://www.suoreoperaie.it

They are Italian sisters but have a new foundation in England too (see here:)
http://www.suoreoperaie.it/dettagli_prima.php?get_id=102

And here there is the website of sr. Anna's dance school:
http://www.holydance.it

[tnavarro61]

unfortunately she's the only sister i saw who has a long hair, and is fine with removing her veils. the first and last time i saw sisters removing their veils, there were tears all around.

i can't understand the mission, and i do not mean the criticize it or reject it... but do they do it at Mass?

[krissylou]

[quote name='tnavarro61' timestamp='1289475288' post='2186415']
unfortunately she's the only sister i saw who has a long hair, and is fine with removing her veils. the first and last time i saw sisters removing their veils, there were tears all around.

i can't understand the mission, and i do not mean the criticize it or reject it... but do they do it at Mass?
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Sounds like it was some kind of performance?

Therese of Lisieux wrote plays while in Carmel and there are pictures of her (out of habit, with long hair) playing Joan of Arc.

http://www.jennyhaniver.com/uploaded_images/therese-2-768267.jpg

[tnavarro61]

[quote name='krissylou' timestamp='1289482401' post='2186429']
Sounds like it was some kind of performance?

Therese of Lisieux wrote plays while in Carmel and there are pictures of her (out of habit, with long hair) playing Joan of Arc.

http://www.jennyhaniver.com/uploaded_images/therese-2-768267.jpg
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yes, but the thing is St Therese wasn't a nun yet when she played Joan of Arc.. Carmelites, if I am not mistaken, have their heads shaved in those days. It seems to me that Sr. [forgot her name] sport a long hair and takes off her habit while in performance. This is kinda unusual for me, and quite scandalous unfortunately if she were here in the Philippines.

[she_who_is_not]

I thought that St. Therese and her sisters wore wigs in those productions (and pictures). The story I remember is that the monasteries kept wigs in case they were forced out of cloister, habit, and veil due to political circumstances. This may not be true, though. I don't have a source for the story.

[Klaudi87]

[quote name='tnavarro61' timestamp='1289475288' post='2186415']
unfortunately she's the only sister i saw who has a long hair, and is fine with removing her veils. the first and last time i saw sisters removing their veils, there were tears all around.

i can't understand the mission, and i do not mean the criticize it or reject it... but do they do it at Mass?
[/quote]


I hope not!!

[TeresaBenedicta]

I'm not sure what's up with the removing the veil and the make-up... but maybe it's best if we ascribe the best possible intentions for this sister. Like we said, we [i]don't[/i] the circumstances. There could be a reason for it. And it could be that she was asked to do it by her superior. I know some communities require the sisters to "pluck" and use acne cream, if those are issues. Maybe this community has asked its sisters to wear make-up. I don't know. But I wouldn't want to immediately go and say this sister is only "half-committed" or something like that. We don't know the circumstances behind all of this.

[organwerke]

[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' timestamp='1289495175' post='2186477']
I'm not sure what's up with the removing the veil and the make-up... but maybe it's best if we ascribe the best possible intentions for this sister. Like we said, we [i]don't[/i] the circumstances. There could be a reason for it. And it could be that she was asked to do it by her superior. I know some communities require the sisters to "pluck" and use acne cream, if those are issues. Maybe this community has asked its sisters to wear make-up. I don't know. But I wouldn't want to immediately go and say this sister is only "half-committed" or something like that. We don't know the circumstances behind all of this.
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You are right, in fact I think she is completely genuine and honest in her committment and I like very much her story.
Surely she does the make up with the permission of her superiors and the same is for the veil.
I think it is not a fact of personal choice but of specific charism of the order, and this is what I found a little odd.
But their charism is to "be witnesses of Christ in the work environment through, in first place, the experience of the work itself".
So, since sr. Anna is a dance teacher it can appear normal that she does make up, as I think it is usual to do with dancers, actresses etc.
I'm sorry if the thread turned into a criticism of her intentions for my fault.

[tnavarro61]

[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' timestamp='1289495175' post='2186477']
I'm not sure what's up with the removing the veil and the make-up... but maybe it's best if we ascribe the best possible intentions for this sister. Like we said, we [i]don't[/i] the circumstances. There could be a reason for it. And it could be that she was asked to do it by her superior. I know some communities require the sisters to "pluck" and use acne cream, if those are issues. Maybe this community has asked its sisters to wear make-up. I don't know. But I wouldn't want to immediately go and say this sister is only "half-committed" or something like that. We don't know the circumstances behind all of this.
[/quote]

i think you're right. well we don't know what's behind. im sorry for my harsh comments.

[Klaudi87]

I don'e mean to talk negative of these sister as Teresa Benedicta brought up a good point we don't know......though im wondering what would be the point of that? (plucking and cream for zits)....honestly what comes to my mind is the saint who used to rub her face with mud to hide her beauty and she wasnt even a religious at the time ( I think it was St. Rose of Lima) But this isin't to compare or anythng I mean again i don't know what their motives are.

[LaPetiteSoeur]

As a friend to a ballerina, I can tell you makeup is a must on stage, especially when it is in a large theatre. Otherwise, the face looks literally pale because of the lights....so it might be because of where she is performing. I'm sure there is a reason for this.

And anyway, we should rejoice that she dedicated her life to the Lord and turned away from her former life! One more soul saved!

Dieu vous benisse!

[Lilllabettt]

[quote name='Klaudi87' timestamp='1289527824' post='2186586'] what would be the point of that? (plucking and cream for zits)....
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I think from the perspective of communities that do this, acne is a health issue, and Sisters should use medicine to treat it the same way they would any other health issue. Plucking eyebrows is the same ... some people get ingrown hair if they don't pluck!

There is also the wish for Sisters to be "becoming" of their state in life. The Church says what Sister's wear should be "becoming." Not pretty. But "becoming," appropriate for the dignity of their vocation. In that case ,something that makes a Sister look childish (acne) or untidy and unkempt (a unabrow!) would be dealt with.

I have also heard the reason given that religious life is countercultural and unusual enough that Sisters feel an obligation not to make it seem unnecessarily weird or strange. So Sisters take care of themselves so as to not cause an unnecessary stumbling block for people.