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[b]St. John 3:14[/b]
[color=red]And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,[/color]


*Lifted up: in Numbers 21:9 Moses simply "mounted" a serpent upon a pole. John here substitutes a verb implying glorification. Jesus, exalted to glory at his cross and resurrection, represents healing for all.


Not only the Crucifixion, but the Crucifix itself... Catholics look toward the Crucifix to be healed, just as the Jews looked toward the serpent of Moses. The Crucifix reminds us of what Christ did, and strengthens our faith.

Christ's Church is such a gift... God has given us so many things to touch all of our senses to build faith in Him.

God Bless,
ironmonk

Posted

Thats a very very interesting thought!!

Peace of Christ, Ken

Jake Huether
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[quote name='ironmonk' date='Apr 20 2004, 06:30 AM'] [b]St. John 3:14[/b]
[color=red]And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,[/color]


*Lifted up: in Numbers 21:9 Moses simply "mounted" a serpent upon a pole. John here substitutes a verb implying glorification. Jesus, exalted to glory at his cross and resurrection, represents healing for all.


Not only the Crucifixion, but the Crucifix itself... Catholics look toward the Crucifix to be healed, just as the Jews looked toward the serpent of Moses. The Crucifix reminds us of what Christ did, and strengthens our faith.

Christ's Church is such a gift... God has given us so many things to touch all of our senses to build faith in Him.

God Bless,
ironmonk [/quote]
You tha man. Thanks for that insight. Very cool.

God Conquers
Posted

sweeeeeeeet. Layers... so many layers.

Like an Ogre

Livin_the_MASS
Posted

The Cross is a plus sign! Good insight ironmonk.

God Bless

Posted

Ironmonk, where would Phatmass be without your profound insights?

ilovechrist
Posted

good point Dave...
without Ironmonk.. we wouldn't have more to debate :D
how did you come up with that ironmonk?

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Looked at the daily reading, then thought of the Crucifix, then thought of the anti-Catholic attacks about the Crucifix and realized that I had never seen this verse used to show what Christ's Church teaches...

then BAM!

Got all excited, did a little dance, and got down to typing.

God Bless,
ironmonk

Edited by ironmonk
Brother Adam
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[quote name='God Conquers' date='Apr 20 2004, 10:55 AM'] sweeeeeeeet. Layers... so many layers.

Like an Ogre [/quote]
Ogre's are like onions.

Brother Adam
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Ironmonk, may I quote you on my website in a debunk section?

Edited by Brother Adam
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[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Apr 20 2004, 04:00 PM'] Ironmonk, may I quote you on my website in a debunk section? [/quote]
It's your website bro... how am I to tell a man what he can and can't do in his own house ;) - I am thankful that you feel I have provided something useful for your website. It shows me that my time spent posting is not in vain.

It makes me feel great that you all like this.


Thank you.
Love in Christ,
ironmonk

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[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Apr 20 2004, 01:59 PM'] Ogre's are like onions. [/quote]
no ogre's are like Cake!

Posted

[quote name='MC Just' date='Apr 21 2004, 12:56 PM'] no ogre's are like Cake! [/quote]
no, like sundaes!

Posted

good post, btw, ironmonk!

Posted

Ogre's have layers?

GC, explain yourself!!

peace...

Posted

it's from Shrek, Pedro.

Posted

Man, I better watch that movie again! Somehow I forgot about that line in the film!

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