Lumiere Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 This remarkable image[img]http://www.religious-vocation.com/images/img_cistercian1.jpg[/img] Has changed to this remarkable image [img]http://www.nunocist.org/wpimages/wp8f4b4dd1_02.jpg[/img] There link is [url="http://www.nunocist.org/index.html"]here...[/url]
Orans Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 They are going to have some 4 or 5 solemn professions in August, I've heard. One of them is from our diocese and we are very happy for her and all.[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/clap2.gif[/img] [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/nunpray.gif[/img]
faithcecelia Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 How wonderful! On a very practical level, I'd be a terrible cistercian, I couldn't keep my brown habit presentable, let alone a white one!
krissylou Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 [quote name='faithcecelia' timestamp='1307601773' post='2251591'] How wonderful! On a very practical level, I'd be a terrible cistercian, I couldn't keep my brown habit presentable, let alone a white one! [/quote] This is one of the main reasons why the reform of the Cistercians (Order of Cistercians of Strict Observance, aka Trappists) use a black scapular. (Okay, probably not. I made that up. But it SHOULD be true, shouldn't it?)
HopefulBride Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 [quote name='Lumiere' timestamp='1307583108' post='2251488'] This remarkable image[img]http://www.religious-vocation.com/images/img_cistercian1.jpg[/img] Has changed to this remarkable image [img]http://www.nunocist.org/wpimages/wp8f4b4dd1_02.jpg[/img] There link is [url="http://www.nunocist.org/index.html"]here...[/url] [/quote] Oh How wonderful!!! [quote name='krissylou' timestamp='1307604919' post='2251593'] This is one of the main reasons why the reform of the Cistercians (Order of Cistercians of Strict Observance, aka Trappists) use a black scapular. (Okay, probably not. I made that up. But it SHOULD be true, shouldn't it?) [/quote] Krissy, you were so convincing that I completely believe it and hereby proclaim it to be the true. hahaha
faithcecelia Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) [quote name='krissylou' timestamp='1307604919' post='2251593'] This is one of the main reasons why the reform of the Cistercians (Order of Cistercians of Strict Observance, aka Trappists) use a black scapular. (Okay, probably not. I made that up. But it SHOULD be true, shouldn't it?) [/quote] I agree, this [i]should[/i] be true! According to the website they get the black scapular at first vows, so maybe that first years noviciate is to fiIter out the messy ones? edit: how on earth does it make sense to change 'fiIter' to fiddler??? Edited June 9, 2011 by faithcecelia
BarbTherese Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 Amazing pictures! One novice does not look so young, while a couple of the postulants look very young. Amazing and wonderful! The picture of the novice on their website I have seen a few times on the net - she is beautiful and a picture holiness! Quite a demanding horarium they have too. There is something about the novice on the far right in the second picture that really appeals to me - a classic 'nun type' to take a backward step into my stereotypes. God bless - Barb
das8949 Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 [quote name='BarbaraTherese' timestamp='1307611408' post='2251601'] Amazing pictures! One novice does not look so young, while a couple of the postulants look very young. Amazing and wonderful! The picture of the novice on their website I have seen a few times on the net - she is beautiful and a picture holiness! Quite a demanding horarium they have too. There is something about the novice on the far right in the second picture that really appeals to me - a classic 'nun type' to take a backward step into my stereotypes. God bless - Barb [/quote] I was trying to match them up and I wonder if the novice you mentioned is the postulant on the rt in the first photo? She does have a beautiful glow about her!
Sarah147 Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) The postulants in the first photo appear to be the first on the left (back row) and the last on the right (middle row) of the second photo. And the postulant in the back, first photo, looks like the third (back row) in the second photo. Edited June 9, 2011 by JoyfulLife
BarbTherese Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 [quote name='DarleneSteinemann' timestamp='1307652863' post='2251766'] I was trying to match them up and I wonder if the novice you mentioned is the postulant on the rt in the first photo? She does have a beautiful glow about her! [/quote] I think you got it- the novice on the far right in the second picture is the postulant on the right in the first picture. I was drawn to her almost immediately, there is something classically nun like about her to me. I do hope she keeps her whites white in her noviciate year or years!
MessorCarus Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Does anyone know how big their community is? They are so beautiful.
PrayerSupporter Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 There's a short but nice slide show about them from You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln1uMWZqo8k Their singing is nice, too!
faithcecelia Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 [quote name='PrayerSupporter' timestamp='1307738363' post='2252150'] There's a short but nice slide show about them from You Tube: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln1uMWZqo8k"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Ln1uMWZqo8k[/url] Their singing is nice, too! [/quote] Thanks for this, its lovely. I love their upstairs choir too!
krissylou Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 [quote name='faithcecelia' timestamp='1307607783' post='2251600'] I agree, this [i]should[/i] be true! According to the website they get the black scapular at first vows, so maybe that first years noviciate is to fiIter out the messy ones? [/quote] Oh, that is just like the Trappistines then. Or at least just like the Trappistines close to my house. I suppose different abbeys may vary. So much for my theory. Although as a scapular was a work apron, the idea of a white one seems kind of nuts if you ask me, which admittedly nobody did. Though I guess if your "work" as a novice is largely prayer and study, that is less messy. I like that postulants --> novices --> junior professed --> solemn professed all look distinct. Postulants wear lay clothes (for some communities this is a "uniform" and for some it is not). Novices wear all white (and pray for grace to avoid stains). Add a black scapular at first vows (but keep the white veil). The black veil comes at perpetual/solemn vows. So there is a steady progression, which seems to me to be excellent symbolism.
TradMom Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 +Praised be Jesus Christ! Their website is really beautiful. It has always been one of my favorites, and I think the update is really quite lovely. The artwork that the website carries is done by their Mother Prioress, M. Bernarda Seferovich. She also did the artwork for one of my favorite books: [u]Monastic Practices[/u], by Charles Cummings, OCSO. http://www.cistercianpublications.org/Detail.aspx?ISBN=0879079754 I recommend it for anyone that would like to learn more about monastic life, Cistercian or not. This community is growing and expanding, and are engaged on a major campaign to raise money for a new Monastery. I hope this happens for them for they are faithful women of Christ and take their life seriously. I do a monthly Novena for them, for various special intentions. I am close to them and hope their community continues to grow with healthy vocations. Pax, TradMom
krissylou Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Ohhhhhhhhh .... that picture includes everyone in formation, postulants through junior professed. It's hard to tell with the mantles covering everything up, but now that I look carefully, some of them have a black scapular underneath. They must be like the Trappistines near me, where the novices wear all white, the junior professed add a black scapular, and then the black veil comes with solemn profession. At first I thought all the women in habits were novices, so that would be an utterly astonishing number to enter in just a few years' time. It's still great -- but not AS . If that's the number that have entered (and, to date, stayed) within five years, that makes more sense.
faithcecelia Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 [quote name='krissylou' timestamp='1308001733' post='2253342'] At first I thought all the women in habits were novices, so that would be an utterly astonishing number to enter in just a few years' time. It's still great -- but not AS . If that's the number that have entered (and, to date, stayed) within five years, that makes more sense. [/quote] I think most the enclosed orders, certainly all the ones I have known, call everyone without solemn vows a novice.
TradMom Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 +Praised be Jesus Christ! Some communities do refer to young sisters (still in temporary vows but out of the novitiate) as Juniors. It really depends upon the community, their traditions and the particulars involved. Just an added note. Their website is clearly calling for young women to enter their Motherhouse. I am hoping this will give them a chance to discern if they should accept vocations past 35. I hope this will happen soon, and I hope all those interested in a true experience of monastic life, with the full and holy habit, will contact them. Pax, TradMom
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