MithLuin Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 Welcome back! It's tough to listen to God's will sometimes, but I assure, it's [i]always[/i] better than ignoring Him! So congrats on your determination to follow His will for your life right now, and good luck figuring out what that might be.
HopefulBride Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 Brandee, Prayers for you as you continue to navigate toward living out God's will. You have been such a great example of faith in the Lord. Hugs, Hopeful
Alabanza Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 My dear Carmelite 15: while you wait on God to tell you or let you know what His will is for you, Praise Him constantly and let your life become a open prayer. How? Well, just pour out your heart to Him, and let Him know (even though He already knows it He likes to hear it), that you love Him and that He is all you desire and need. Jesus our beloved. Always have the right attitude while you wait on His divine will. God bless you sweetie.
teresitacarmel Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) [quote name='carmelite15' timestamp='1315590619' post='2302587'] Yes I am back from Carmel I am happy but I am still willing to do God's will. I mean thats why I left becasue I was feeling God dose not want me right now. I mean when I was there I had time to think and see what God wanted for me right now. [/quote] Why am I not surprised? I knew it. I knew it wouldn't be so easy. It serves you right, with all your smug talk about entering right away, acting like you were gonna be accepted and you were gonna stay there for sure. You've wanted it for "so long", you said? Well little girl, you're not the only one. Now you know what it feels like to be denied and played with....at least to a small degree. Yeah I know I will get attacked for what I'm saying....just like last time when I felt skeptical about your absolute confidence in you vocation. You're the beloved princess around here and I'm the evil troll. I really don't care. Say what you will, all of you. I'm numbed by all the pain and suffering I go through for my own calling anyway. I'm sick and tired, and I've just about had enough. Gotta say, I told you so. You were always saying how God wants you so much and He can't wait and wants you now??? Now you're saying you left because you feel God does not want you right now? Have fun eating your own words. You were so certain you were gonna make it weren't you? Heavens forbid anyone should say anything to the contrary! You and your supporters alike, you were so quick to dismiss me and my stupid doubts. Well, welcome to the harsh reality I occupy now: the only thing you know is that you don't know anything at all. Edited September 12, 2011 by teresitacarmel
faithcecelia Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Teresita, that is absolutely out of order, so unkind! Yes, there were a good number of us who were concerned about Brandee going so young, whether we said so publicly or not, but there is absolutely no reason at all to gloat and be so cruel to her! I have spoken to her privately and it seems to me that she has a good head on her shoulders. She seems to have accepted this disappointment with a level of maturity that belies her age, and is already using the experience and the insights she has gained to work on gaining the maturity and spiritual 'solidity' that she has now seen first hand that she needs before she can actually enter and give her life to God more fully. I actually think and hope that her experience will be of help to others who read it and see that actually, yes, you can feel sure and yet still have it not work out. Brandee, I continue to pray for you as you settle back into life and look for work. I pray that God will surround you in His love and continue to guide your steps as you continue your discernment. Much love to you, you are doing so well.
OnlySunshine Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 [quote name='teresitacarmel' timestamp='1315811720' post='2303704'] Why am I not surprised? I knew it. I knew it wouldn't be so easy. It serves you right, with all your smug talk about entering right away, acting like you were gonna be accepted and you were gonna stay there for sure. You've wanted it for "so long", you said? Well little girl, you're not the only one. Now you know what it feels like to be denied and played with....at least to a small degree. Yeah I know I will get attacked for what I'm saying....just like last time when I felt skeptical about your absolute confidence in you vocation. You're the beloved princess around here and I'm the evil troll. I really don't care. Say what you will, all of you. I'm numbed by all the pain and suffering I go through for my own calling anyway. I'm sick and tired, and I've just about had enough. Gotta say, I told you so. You were always saying how God wants you so much and He can't wait and wants you now??? Now you're saying you left because you feel God does not want you right now? Have fun eating your own words. You were so certain you were gonna make it weren't you? Heavens forbid anyone should say anything to the contrary! You and your supporters alike, you were so quick to dismiss me and my stupid doubts. Well, welcome to the harsh reality I occupy now: the only thing you know is that you don't know anything at all. [/quote] You seriously need prayers. That is the worst and most hateful thing to say to someone. Have you learned nothing from the last time you posted? Seriously, grow up and start learning that what you say has an effect on people and when you go around blabbing how you were right and everyone else was wrong instead of offering support, it just makes people think you have no heart at all. I will be reporting your post to the moderators and ask that you do not try to turn this into an argument like you did last time. Learn some manners, for crying out loud!
teresitacarmel Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Don't worry about it. I know I'm being unkind. And I'm sure more of you will reprimand me. Yes, I'm a cruel evil bitter beesh OK? You all can join together and stone me to death. I don't care anymore. If you knew any measure of the anger, despair, pain....that I feel, you'll realize that I'm already suffering to no end OK???? So take comfort in that.
teresitacarmel Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1315814470' post='2303716'] You seriously need prayers. That is the worst and most hateful thing to say to someone. Have you learned nothing from the last time you posted? Seriously, grow up and start learning that what you say has an effect on people and when you go around blabbing how you were right and everyone else was wrong instead of offering support, it just makes people think you have no heart at all. I will be reporting your post to the moderators and ask that you do not try to turn this into an argument like you did last time. Learn some manners, for crying out loud! [/quote] Yes, you're right. I'm in need of a lot of things....I have a desire to self-destruct right now. Is that enough for you? No problem, yell at me, I want you all to scream at me and hate me and despise me. I can't sink any lower anyway. It's just sooooo good and encouraging to hear all these tales of woe regarding religious life. Makes me wonder why I choose to pursue this at all. I'm getting pushed around and played with, and there's no end in sight. So yeah, I'm so done. I feel hopeless. It's taking every ounce of my will to not give in to taking my own life!!!! So please! By all means unite and loathe me....there's nothing left inside of me to take....
OnlySunshine Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) [quote name='teresitacarmel' timestamp='1315814629' post='2303717'] Don't worry about it. I know I'm being unkind. And I'm sure more of you will reprimand me. Yes, I'm a cruel evil bitter beesh OK? You all can join together and stone me to death. I don't care anymore. If you knew any measure of the anger, despair, pain....that I feel, you'll realize that I'm already suffering to no end OK???? So take comfort in that. [/quote] Doesn't it bother you to walk around with so much anger and hatred in your heart? I've spoken to people who have born so much hate towards others that they became physically ill! It doesn't do you or anyone else any good to hold that inside. I know you may think that I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'm going to pray for you. You need to let go of this and try to be a more tolerant, compassionate person. You will find that you will get farther in life by forming your heart like Jesus' than talking about how you were right and everyone else was wrong. That is not what discernment is about, anyway. It's about learning, personally, what God wants of you. Some of us along the way have had to retrace our steps and re-evaluate our discernment, but it is never easy. [quote] [size=4][sup]25[/sup] Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body. [sup]26[/sup] “In your anger do not sin”[sup][[url="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4&version=NIV#fen-NIV-29299d"]d[/url]][/sup]: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, [sup]27[/sup] and do not give the devil a foothold. [sup]28[/sup] Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need. [/size] [size=4][sup]29[/sup] Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. [sup]30[/sup] And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. [sup]31[/sup] Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. [sup]32[/sup] Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you. [/size]-- Ephesians 4:25-32[/quote] Edited September 12, 2011 by MaterMisericordiae
faithcecelia Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 [quote name='teresitacarmel' timestamp='1315814629' post='2303717'] Don't worry about it. I know I'm being unkind. And I'm sure more of you will reprimand me. Yes, I'm a cruel evil bitter beesh OK? You all can join together and stone me to death. I don't care anymore. If you knew any measure of the anger, despair, pain....that I feel, you'll realize that I'm already suffering to no end OK???? So take comfort in that. [/quote] This is the worst thing. You know you are being unkind but you do it anyway. You seem [i]pleased[/i] that it didn't work out for her and that you can now smugly say 'I told you so' thats very cruel. I understand that you are suffering, but that is absolutely no excuse to take it out on this young girl who is readjusting to life (a very hard thing t do) and continuing to discern her future. If you cannot deal with your own problems, then please get professional help, but don't reflect your feelings about yourself onto others, thats just not on.
OnlySunshine Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 [quote name='teresitacarmel' timestamp='1315815319' post='2303718'] Yes, you're right. I'm in need of a lot of things....I have a desire to self-destruct right now. Is that enough for you? No problem, yell at me, I want you all to scream at me and hate me and despise me. I can't sink any lower anyway. It's just sooooo good and encouraging to hear all these tales of woe regarding religious life. Makes me wonder why I choose to pursue this at all. I'm getting pushed around and played with, and there's no end in sight. So yeah, I'm so done. I feel hopeless. It's taking every ounce of my will to not give in to taking my own life!!!! So please! By all means unite and loathe me....there's nothing left inside of me to take.... [/quote] Why do you think that it makes me happy that you are hurting? Do you think that I do not have any compassion at all? Give me a chance. I want to become a social worker because I want to help people, so that should say something. When you talk about ending your life, you really need to talk to someone. These thoughts swirling in your head are not from God, they are from the evil one -- the deceiver and father of lies. He wants nothing more than to make you feel worthless and unloved. DON'T BELIEVE HIM!! If you give the devil an inch, he will take a mile, and before you know it, he has eaten up all the love in your heart. Teresita, you may think no one cares, but I care. I hold no hatred or anger towards you. I understand that when you say such things, you are saying them because you are hurting. Talk to someone. Let it out. Go to a priest if you must. Go to the emergency room if necessary. Do not let these feelings fester within you. I know what it is like because I have been there myself. Please talk to someone. [url="http://suicidehotlines.com/"]Help Hotline Phone Numbers[/url]
maximillion Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 People lash out at others when they are in pain and despair themselves.......I compassionate you teresita, and I pray for you and for your pain. I don't condemn you. If I am really honest once I saw Brandee's blog I was doubtful as I felt there was a real want of maturity, but it was not my place to say and one reading of a blog does not make me know her - you Brandee. I know that you will learn from this....just what, is not my concern but His. I have long puzzled over how one speaks one's truth without causing pain to the other....... Sometimes, lessons are painful and they can be made using our voice as His instrument. We know some will discern and will be found not to have a vocation after all. That does not make them any less His. We know some are not yet mature enough.......when it is plain to us, is it beholden that we speak this or do we let the person go on thinking they have our all out support and encouragement? One thing I have noticed on my short sojourn on these pages is the number of times and people who are clear they are saying they pray for God's Will to be done. Of course we all want that, but are we sometime's using it as a get out clause for not saying what we really think? Finding a way to be honest and open with each other would be really usefull especially to those heading into a community..... What I have learned, I hope, is to couch my comments always in compassion........
Nunsense Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 teresitacarmel is obviously suffering extreme pain and suffering right now, and like a wounded animal, is lashing out. So please, show her the same compassion you want her to show to carmelite15. Perhaps, instead of saying anything personal about her, it would be best to just offer love and support to both of these women. It is a very sad situation. teresitacarmel, please feel free to contact me personally if you need to vent. Carmlite15, I think you are probably going to be alright, but the same offer applies to you. And TC - I know exactly how you feel, even if I wouldn't express myself the same way - I have felt the same pain... honestly. Prayers for both of you..... I don't know the emoticon for tears, but I feel a great sadness in my heart right now for all wounded hearts.....
IcePrincessKRS Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 This thread is being closed to prevent any further distress to those involved. It's fine to have reservations, concerns, and worries, but please temper them with love and prayer rather than criticism. Let us [i]all [/i]offer prayers and compassion to discerners--in all stages of their discernment--especially those who have entered and left and are still seeking His will. God bless you all.
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