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This is stupid. This is such an easy problem to fix. You can eat a healthy meal for less than a combo at McDonalds (note than you cannot eat healthy food until your gullet is stuffed, but you can eat healthy food that will cause you to loose weight pretty cheaply) and it takes like half an hour a day to get in a decent amount of exercise.

Just eat smaller portions and fit exercise into your schedule. You can get an intense workout in 20 minutes. Look up crossfit.

Do this:

[url="http://www.crossfitunc.com/"]http://www.crossfitunc.com/[/url]

At most you need a single dumbbell.

You can do push-ups in an elevator.

I'm not in the best shape that I could be in but it's just really not that hard to get in good shape if you're willing to get outside of your comfort zone and be consistent. Getting in shape isn't about poverty, your workload, or anything else. It's not time consuming or expensive. I know a lot of kids who live in the projects who are in great shape. It's just hard in the sense that you need to push yourself a little and endure a bit of physical discomfort.

Unless you have some sort of medical issue or disability if you are unhealthy it's your fault.

Which is a good thing because that means it's in your power to change. It will take a bit of time but if you do it you will get results.

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[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1316571315' post='2307870']You can do push-ups in an elevator.[/quote]Hassan, I generally like your posts. Down to earth sensibility and humor. But I can't quite figure out what this is...

I get the mental image of a exercise infomercial: "Y[i]es, even you can do situps on escalators. Pushups in elevators. Pullups up on the city bus. Even crunches on your favorite park picnic table. All of this is apart of my free and public calisthenics program. No need for uncle sam to pace you, just go out and start today![/i]"[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1316563009' post='2307821']Of course there seems to be correlation between weight, good or bad, and a shortened lifespan. But I'd rather be Roy Baty than Gandhi.[/quote]Yes, for starters it hypothetically puts more strain on your skeletal system. But if we could exchange our social excessive fat problem for a social excessive muscle problem, I would be leaning for the latter too. However we are looking more for what is ideal for the general population, males and females.



I have been told that the World Health Organization recommends walking for thirty minutes a day to help combat obesity, but with particular focus on cycling, since its low impact on the skeletal system and generally more enjoyable.

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[quote name='Mr.Cat' timestamp='1316550775' post='2307731']
The 2008 law has met [size=5][b]heavy[/b][/size] resistance in Japan,
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Was that an intentional pun?

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All I know is, Jesus wasn't overweight. He was & is perfect in every respect, including the divine BMI.

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[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1316552237' post='2307742']
has anyone seen Food Inc. ? I think it explains a part of the problem very well... over-processed junk food is cheaper and more accessible than more nutritious things
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Food Inc. is full of flaws. Watch the movie [url="http://www.fathead-movie.com/"]Fat Head[/url]. More entertaining and fact based.

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may i haz a source for claims that food inc is full of flaws plez?

Guest Jamestrother1245
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I agree that diet and exercise plus determination is the key for successful weight loss. However, obesity is genetically inherited as well. Check out your roots, there might be one of your family members who suffered from obesity. Sometimes you cannot [url="http://www.weightlosingportal.com/escape-from-obesity/"]escape from obesity[/url]
but if you are really determined to be slim then you have to be determined and have the discipline.

Good luck!!!

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[quote name='Mr.Cat' timestamp='1316571725' post='2307871']
Yes, for starters it hypothetically puts more strain on your skeletal system. But if we could exchange our social excessive fat problem for a social excessive muscle problem, I would be leaning for the latter too. However we are looking more for what is ideal for the general population, males and females.[/quote]
Leave them be will be my answer. Back off, abolish government studies and grants and little flyers asking my kid what Michelle Obama thinks about healthier diets.



[quote]I have been told that the World Health Organization recommends walking for thirty minutes a day to help combat obesity, but with particular focus on cycling, since its low impact on the skeletal system and generally more enjoyable.
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Bones respond to impact by hardening themselves.

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[quote name='kamiller42' timestamp='1316582513' post='2307953']
Food Inc. is full of flaws. Watch the movie [url="http://www.fathead-movie.com/"]Fat Head[/url]. More entertaining and fact based.
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nothing like a man living off of crappy fast food. yuck.

wether or not he hit a satisfactory calorie goal isn't the issue with me...it's the fact that the food he's eating isn't quality food for the body. it shows a lack nutrients essential to the body.

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[quote name='Jamestrother1245' timestamp='1316591891' post='2307972']
I agree that diet and exercise plus determination is the key for successful weight loss. However, obesity is genetically inherited as well. Check out your roots, there might be one of your family members who suffered from obesity. Sometimes you cannot [url="http://www.weightlosingportal.com/escape-from-obesity/"]escape from obesity[/url]
but if you are really determined to be slim then you have to be determined and have the discipline.

Good luck!!!
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A well known health programme over here looked at this recently. An obese family - parents and 2 adult children - were convinced they couldn't help their weight, that it must be genetic and they must have slow betabolisms. So they tested them, and they also tested the doctor (who is slim). Yes there was evidence of one of the so-called fat genes....in the doctor! The family did not have any of them, and they also had high metabolisms - as most overweight do as being overweight increases the metabolism. Once they had tried to add another 20 or so excuses, they ultimately had to accept that actually theu just are too much! And suprise suprise, when the started eating properly, they lost weight. The son also took up exercise and lost masses.

There [i]are[/i] one or two illnesses and genetic problems that do reduce metabolism dramatically, but even these people, once diagnosed and taught about healthy eating, have all they need to remain slim. They just need to add willpower, which sadly doesn't come on prescription.

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It's the medical treatment when I get sick mentality of the US. Rather than preventive healthcare mentality.

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Yeah. That's why it's so hard to convince someone that being obese is a problem...it's not until you actually develop heart trouble or diabetes that someone takes you seriously and says, 'Oh...maybe I should change some things.' The doctor can say for years at a checkup 'You should change these habits,' but how many people actually take that seriously?

[b]Hassan[/b], while I agree with your basic premise that it's something within reach to make lifestyle changes, eat healthier (and smaller portions!) and incorporate moderate exercise into your day...I think it's important to keep in mind that the results you will see from this effort are going to vary. A young male will trim down quickly. An older female is gonna have to work at it for a long time to see the changes. It's easier when you're younger, just because. Sure, this should be a motivation to start now, not wait til later, but...for the people who [i]are[/i] older, it can be a very daunting uphill battle, so it's good to acknowledge that.

My sister has probably lost her entire body weight or more in the past 5 years. Before you tell me that's not possible, I should mention that she gave birth to her third child a month ago. She's had great success with WeightWatchers+breastfeeding to take off the extra baby weight, and hopes to trim down over the next year to reach her target weight....again. Telling her that 'it's easy!' might get things thrown at you. Sure, it's not a huge deal...but she has a family to feed and very little personal free time with little ones underfoot. She's resourceful, so she makes it happen. Gyms have childcare. Etc. But she's under no illusions that her body is ever going to look like it did pre-motherhood. She might be able to fit into a size 6 this time next year, though, and that will be exciting.

Self-control and discipline can be a challenge for anyone. Some people need more encouragement and accountability than others to stick with a diet/exercise plan. Sometimes, you need to hear, 'You can do it!' ...not 'It's your own stupid fault!'

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To say obesity is easy to fix is simplistic, assumptive, and wrong, because IF it were that easy, we would all be skinny minnies. Middle-class and higher social economic groups have a much easier time staying slim because they have more resources to allocate for fitness activities, leisure time and healthy food.

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I would say it's easy to do, but hard to stay resolved to do.

Listen, if i were not to eat for a month, i would probably drop some weight. But i am certainly NOT resolved not to eat for a month.

Similarly, if I were to eat nothing but lettuce, carrots, lean protein, and all that other good stuff, I would prbably lose weight. But, because of my sloth or gluttony, I have not the desire to stay resolved to that lifestyle change. I did it once, i hated it. It was too hard. I am too lazy. Until I have the resolve to make it happen, it won't happen. I can drop weight, I've done it before... i just need to be resolved to do it again...

i want a chili che.ese dog now.

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Yes, I dropped a good deal of weight the Lent I went a bit overboard on the fasting. Skinniest I've ever been in my adult life!* Of course, I also convinced my body that I was in starvation mode or something, so there were some consequences to that. 'Not eating' is not a long term option, of course, but it's also not remotely healthy. The goal is to find that happy balance in your diet, your exercise, your lifestyle. THAT isn't an easy task, especially for people who have a lot of responsibilities pulling them in different directions. Sure, it CAN be done....and laziness works against it. But it's not simply laziness that's causing the problem.


* [size=1]I was about 125 lbs (and flat chested). I get more exercise now, but weigh closer to 170 lbs. If I could break my internet addiction, things would improve. I think the move to Ethiopia will have a positive impact on my lifestyle. [/size]

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[quote name='rachael' timestamp='1316603389' post='2308001']
nothing like a man living off of crappy fast food. yuck.

wether or not he hit a satisfactory calorie goal isn't the issue with me...it's the fact that the food he's eating isn't quality food for the body. it shows a lack nutrients essential to the body.
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yeh Super Size Me was Gross

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It has also been found that the ratio of different microbes in your gut influences obesity A LOT

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I have also heard that getting enough sleep helps, since there is a chemical that controls appetite that is affected byteh amount or lack of sleep you get.

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[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1316629447' post='2308166']
To say obesity is easy to fix is simplistic, assumptive, and wrong, because IF it were that easy, we would all be skinny minnies. Middle-class and higher social economic groups have a much easier time staying slim because they have more resources to allocate for fitness activities, leisure time and healthy food.
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At the same time, classes of people who do manual labor will spend their working hours being physically active, instead of sitting behind a desk.

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[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1316649818' post='2308337']

At the same time, classes of people who do manual labor will spend their working hours being physically active, instead of sitting behind a desk.
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But how often do we see manual laborers that are obese or overweight?

My brother works pretty hard at work, moving furniture and pallets and the like, but he is still 400 pounds...

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