What Percent Out Of A 100 Are You Convinced That The God Of The Bible

[Guest]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1324320372' post='2353783']

Jesus never said the Old Testament was wrong. Jesus Christ simply set higher standards for the Christian, who lives with God's grace.

While our understanding of the Bible (both Old and New Testaments) may be wrong, Sacred Scripture itself is inerrant.
(Pope Leo XIII,[i] Providentissimus Deus[/i], n. 20).

(Pope Pius XII, [i]Divino Afflante Spiritu[/i], n. 1)


Sorry, but if you think Sacred Scripture is wrong or in error, you're not Catholic.
[/quote] I'm catholic. Some of the old testement stuff seems weird to me though. All of the killing in Gods name. I guess I don't think the bible has errors in it. But I don't know. Some of the old testement seems like it could have errors. I'm not saying that I believe it does though. So thanks for calling me out on my comment I made. I guess I'm confused about the old testement. That's why I started that old testement thread before which was really good and informative.

Edited December 20, 2011 by Guest

[stevil]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1324338053' post='2353956']
How does this have something to do with me exactly? And what is looking for mysterious explanations?
[/quote]
I was agreeing with your previous comment "To me positing a miraculous creation of life seems unnecessary"
I don't think that Theists need to posit a miraculous creation.

With regards to mysterious explanations, its a similar thing, scientists would investigate and discover while some theists may feel the need to posit a miraculous explaination, but I dont think it is necessary for theists to do this.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='stevil' timestamp='1324348743' post='2354124']
I was agreeing with your previous comment "To me positing a miraculous creation of life seems unnecessary"
I don't think that Theists need to posit a miraculous creation.

With regards to mysterious explanations, its a similar thing, scientists would investigate and discover while some theists may feel the need to posit a miraculous explaination, but I dont think it is necessary for theists to do this.
[/quote]
That's what she said.

P.S. Agreement is fun. Btw, I'm in troll mode half the time, just to give you a head's up.

[Ice_nine]

I like mystery.

Mystery is fly. Let's swing back to the pre-enlightenment Romantic era plz

[penguin31]

For what it's worth, a thought: If we were 100% certain about every element of everything, they'd at least partially cease to be [i]mysteries, [/i]wouldn't they?

[Ice_nine]

I don't think certainty necessarily negates mystery. I could for example be certain of God's love, but not be able fathom it or even make sense of it. To behold the beatific vision you would be certain of God's existence yet there is still probably a ton o' mystery to be had

but certainty is not for this world. That's one of the joys of being human! or one of its miseries depending on your viewpoint.

A scientist can tell me why a sunset looks the way it does. The certain chemical reactions taking place, the wavelengths of light and the way my occipital lobe processes the information, but he/she cannot tell me why it is beautiful or why it inspires awe. I feel bad for people who have the need to parse it into little pieces and try to simple reduce things to a sum of all of its parts. Sometimes you just need to sit back and be moved by what's around you rather than being an agent of understanding.

wow I sound like I'm loaded. But it's just late. I should sleep

[cmotherofpirl]

i have never been 100% sure of anything, but it has always seemed illogical to assume we are simply products of randomness.

[MithLuin]

[b]Ice Nine[/b], I agree with what you are saying.

[color=#181818][font=georgia, serif][left]“He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom.” ~ Gandalf to Saruman, [i]Lord of the Rings[/i][/left][/font][/color]

[Socrates]

[quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1324358002' post='2354244']
I like mystery.

Mystery is fly. Let's swing back to the pre-enlightenment Romantic era plz
[/quote]
Actually, the Romantic era (19th century) was[i] post[/i]-enlightenment (18th century).

Sorry, I'm a history nerd.

Edited December 29, 2011 by Socrates

[FutureCarmeliteClaire]

110%!!

[Not A Mallard]

9000+%

[Ice_nine]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1325195909' post='2359591']
Actually, the Romantic era (19th century) was[i] post[/i]-enlightenment (18th century).

Sorry, I'm a history nerd.
[/quote]

whoops! I should've known that. Now there is egg all over my face

The romantic era was in reaction to the enlightenment. I can understand why! Science is the bees knees and all but that don't mean it has dibs on errythang.

[thessalonian]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1323983928' post='2351782']
if you have doubts, even momentary, then i wouldnt say 100%.
[/quote]

I don't have ANY at the current time. Haven't for a while. Is it your position that one cannot have had any doubts at any time in the past to say 100%. Silly. 100% it is.

Edited December 30, 2011 by thessalonian

[desrtflower23]

I believe that the God of the Bible exists, but I doubt I am 100% sure about that. I say that I believe in the God of the Bible, but I am sometimes struck with doubts about His goodness. I pray and seek answers, and the Holy Spirit seems to illuminate the truth whenever I really hit a wall. I guess I would say I'm about an 85% too, because I definitely don't always live in the reality of the perfectly loving God revealed in the Bible. This is a really interesting question

Edited January 3, 2012 by desrtflower23

[ParadiseFound]

Percent out of 100? As opposed to percent out of what...?

[Ice_nine]

[quote name='ParadiseFound' timestamp='1325867433' post='2363964']
Percent out of 100? As opposed to percent out of what...?
[/quote]

Don't be pedantic, you know what he means.

[Guest]

[quote name='ParadiseFound' timestamp='1325867433' post='2363964']
Percent out of 100? As opposed to percent out of what...?
[/quote] of 254

Edited January 7, 2012 by Guest

[MithLuin]

Just to clarify that we were using base ten numbers and that the percentage should not be reported as a decimal? Heheh.

[his_remnant]

100 even though i think it might be easier to be a neo-pagan atheist

[GeorgiiMichael]

You all must move mountains with your 100% faith.

[quote name='Gospel of Matthew, 17:20'][color=#333333][font=Georgia,] He said to them, “Because of your little faith. Amen, I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”[/font][/color][/quote]

I have not been able to speak and move mountains. Or uproot a tree. And while I will choose to live and believe in Jesus Christ and in the teachings of the Catholic Church, I know my faith is less than the size of a mustard seed because try as I might, I cannot move mountains.

I pray to one day have the faith of that size, let alone faith with 100 percent of my being.