Sarah147 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) [quote name='CherieMadame' timestamp='1324564662' post='2355878'] Also the term "dating" is used loosely. My husband and I had a successful courtship via a Catholic dating website; courtship, in my opinion, is the only way to go. I don't agree with "dating" in the strict sense of the word. [/quote] I agree.... thank God for Jason Evert, his shows and chastity website, and what I've learned second hand from I Kissed Dating Goodbye by Joshua Harris. See my [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/topic/108598-the-chastity-thread/page__view__findpost__p__2175158"]post here[/url]. Back some years ago in my conversion process, they really changed my view of relationships. I fell in love with their teaching about courtship as opposed to "dating." I see dating as playing around as if you were married, in the secular scene, where as courting is the traditional way of getting to know someone and discern marriage while living as faithful single Catholics. I also learned from them about what is proper to do in relationships and what isn't. There is a lot of q&a on the chastity website. It's a must see! Edited December 22, 2011 by JoyfulLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) I really didn't mean dating in the secular sense of the world. The world's view of dating is so twisted. Cohabitation and premarital sex -- don't even get me started. I just thought it sounded rather strange to say "courted" or "courting." I have heard nothing but good things about Jason and Crystalina Evert. In fact, they were mentioned in my small group at the retreat this past weekend because I brought up that I was interested in discerning marriage or consecrated single life. I also mentioned that I was more attracted to marriage because I really cannot picture myself as a Consecrated Virgin, but I'm still leaving that option open. That's when the religious brother told me to read the materials by the Everts. I also have "Theology of the Body for Beginners" and "The Good News About Sex and Marriage" by Christopher West. I want to buy these books: [url="http://www.amazon.com/Find-Your-Soulmate-Without-Losing/dp/0983092303/ref=pd_sim_b_6"]How to Find Your Soulmate Without Losing Your Soul[/url] by Jason Evert [url="http://www.aquinasandmore.com/catholic-gifts/clean-love-in-courtship/sku/23513"]Clean Love in Courtship[/url] by Fr. L. Lovasik [url="http://www.aquinasandmore.com/catholic-books/abcs-of-choosing-a-good-husband/sku/20261"]The ABC's of Choosing a Good Husband[/url] by Stephen Wood Edited December 22, 2011 by MaterMisericordiae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i<3LSOP Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 My friend and a PM member i<3franciscans has "[u]How to Find Your Soulmate Without Loosing Your Soul[/u]" [font="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#282828"]too and I read a tiny bit of it. [/color][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) Wow. Cherie, do you have any books or videos to add? I just might have to get into reading if I later discern marriage. (RSM, please email me soon!) Edited December 22, 2011 by JoyfulLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savvy Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote]I have heard nothing but good things about Jason and Crystalina Evert. In fact, they were mentioned in my small group at the retreat this past weekend because I brought up that I was interested in discerning marriage or consecrated single life. I also mentioned that I was more attracted to marriage because I really cannot picture myself as a Consecrated Virgin, but I'm still leaving that option open. That's when the religious brother told me to read the materials by the Everts. I also have "Theology of the Body for Beginners" and "The Good News About Sex and Marriage" by Christopher West. I want to buy these books:[/quote] Jason and Crystalina are good. I am just not a Christopher West fan. I have a lot of his books, but would recommend reading Pope John Paul 2's writings directly. I would also recommend the book, "Love and Responsibility". There is a easy-to-read version of L&R. I would also go with Dawn Eden's "Thrill of the Chaste" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savvy Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote] I fell in love with their teaching about courtship as opposed to "dating." [/quote] I know what you mean, but dating and courtship are cultural terms. In Australia, the word used is courting, but it means the same as secular dating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='JoyfulLife' timestamp='1324582904' post='2355975'] Wow. Cherie, do you have any books or videos to add? I just might have to get into reading if I later discern marriage. (RSM, please email me soon!) [/quote] Hun, I know you want to hear back from them, but just realize that this is a VERY busy time of year for religious. You may not hear from them until after Epiphany or the Feast of the Presentation of Our Lord. [quote name='savvy' timestamp='1324590437' post='2356017'] Jason and Crystalina are good. I am just not a Christopher West fan. I have a lot of his books, but would recommend reading Pope John Paul 2's writings directly. I would also recommend the book, "Love and Responsibility". There is a easy-to-read version of L&R. I would also go with Dawn Eden's "Thrill of the Chaste" [/quote] I know there is some skepticism about Christopher West, but from what I have read from "The Good News About Sex and Marriage" I liked. I might try to find a copy of "Love and Responsibility" as it was recommended to the young women in my group by a Sister of Life when she gave her talk on true Catholic womanhood. I've never heard of Dawn Eden, but I'll look into that book as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savvy Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 [quote]I might try to find a copy of "Love and Responsibility" as it was recommended to the young women in my group by a Sister of Life when she gave her talk on true Catholic womanhood. I've never heard of Dawn Eden, but I'll look into that book as well. [/quote] You can download "Love and Responsibility" here. http://www.catholicculture.com/jp2_on_l&r.html Dawn Eden is the former rock journalist from the New York Post. She is also a convert. This is her blog. http://dawneden.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1324596292' post='2356056'] Hun, I know you want to hear back from them, but just realize that this is a VERY busy time of year for religious. You may not hear from them until after Epiphany or the Feast of the Presentation of Our Lord. [/quote] January 8th or Feb 2nd! :::Joyful, hold it together...:::: Edited December 23, 2011 by JoyfulLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 [quote name='savvy' timestamp='1324600997' post='2356095'] You can download "Love and Responsibility" here. [url="http://www.catholicculture.com/jp2_on_l&r.html"]http://www.catholicc...jp2_on_l&r.html[/url] Dawn Eden is the former rock journalist from the New York Post. She is also a convert. This is her blog. [url="http://dawneden.blogspot.com/"]http://dawneden.blogspot.com/[/url] [/quote] GOD BLESS YOU!!!! You saved me money and that is amesome!!! [quote name='JoyfulLife' timestamp='1324601382' post='2356096'] January 8th or Feb 2nd! :::Joyful, hold it together...:::: [/quote] I know it is a trial, but give it up to God. You will hear from them in God's time, not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savvy Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 [quote]GOD BLESS YOU!!!! You saved me money and that is amesome!!! [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureSister2009 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I think there is another book out called If You Really Loved Me. I'd like to read that and How To Find your soulmate at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 [quote name='FutureSister2009' timestamp='1324665934' post='2356461'] I think there is another book out called If You Really Loved Me. I'd like to read that and How To Find your soulmate at some point [/quote] Yes, I saw that on a Catholic Courtship website. There are so many good resources out there that are for those who want to discern marriage. I truly think it is beautiful to be surrounded by amazing Catholic husbands/wives in my Young Adult group. It's so inspirational, but the Holy Family is my biggest inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oremoose Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1324408280' post='2354525'] Hi all! I was curious about this topic. I know we have a few phorum members that discerned religious life (even entering communities) but then discerned that God was leading them towards marriage like Totus Tuus, Cherie Madame, etc. I am curious as to how long you waited after discerning religious life before you started dating and discerning marriage. Did you go right into it? How did you meet your boyfriends or husbands? [/quote] Could any one answer this part of the first question? This This is where I ( a young man who has some what recently decerned away religious life) am interested. I wish to do God's will at all times and serve him. Now I am not sure if I should look into other orders or find try to find the woman God made for me if she is ut there. When would one know such things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Well, you really need a spiritual director. For me, since I have health issues, only two of all the orders out there veiled will consider me. We'll now be discerning if I even have a calling to religious life. If they say I don't have a vocation or my health is a problem, then I will give myself time to be open what God wants to do with me, whether it someday be consecrated virginity or marriage or josephite. I think it would help you to talk to a spiritual director and get advice from vocation directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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