Ice_nine Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 My stomach turned. I think it's because I spent a few years within this belief system, and frankly it's embarrassing to recall that. At the time I was master of cognitive dissonance. Shame It's hard not to project my past failures onto other people BUT I agree with most here.
GeorgiiMichael Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 It's clear he's had some bad experiences with organized Christianity that go beyond what he cites in his poem. The problem here, of course, is that he's making a rule from an exception that he experienced. He's also blaming organized religion for his own failings as a sinner. Is whatever church he grew up in to blame for him being prim and proper on Sundays but relishing in his own hedonism the night before? Somehow, I think not. There must be more to the story. I wish I knew more. Also, the claim that Jesus hates religion? Wow. "And upon this rock I will build my church," certainly sounds like religion starting to me. Christianity is a religion, even if he doesn't want to call it that. Even his own sola scriptura by private interpretation.
MargaretTeresa Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 All of my Southern Baptist friends are posting it on their Facebook walls... I've learned that if they all are posting something about Jesus in general, I'm not going to agree. Ergo, I usually ignore.
BigJon16 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Quoting the video: [quote] "If Jesus came to your church, would they let Him in?" [/quote] Jesus is already in my church. It's called the Eucharist, fool.
InPersonaChriste Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Okay.. Some of the things he says are good things. But the overall message about Jesus coming to "abolish" religion is really really wrong. The Bible states otherwise... http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/2012/01/why-i-hate-religion-but-love-jesus-the-smackdow.html That link cleared it all up Edited January 13, 2012 by InPersonaChriste
Basilisa Marie Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Although this is far from my biggest criticism of the video, every single bible reference the poet uses "religion" to describe Judaism. It could be considered to be wildly anti-Semitic, in a certain light. Because Jesus [i]totally [/i]came to abolish Judaism.
Hidalgo SJS Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 [url="http://marysaggies.blogspot.com/2012/01/does-jesus-hate-religion-should-you.html?m=1"]http://marysaggies.blogspot.com/2012/01/does-jesus-hate-religion-should-you.html?m=1[/url] another good commentary
XIX Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 [quote name='InPersonaChriste' timestamp='1326434687' post='2368237'] Okay.. Some of the things he says are good things. But the overall message about Jesus coming to "abolish" religion is really really wrong. The Bible states otherwise... [url="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/2012/01/why-i-hate-religion-but-love-jesus-the-smackdow.html"]http://www.patheos.c...e-smackdow.html[/url] That link cleared it all up [/quote] You beat me to the punch.
Laudate_Dominum Posted January 13, 2012 Author Posted January 13, 2012 phatcatholic's blog post about this. [url="http://phatcatholic.blogspot.com/2012/01/response-to-why-i-hate-religion-but.html"]http://phatcatholic.blogspot.com/2012/01/response-to-why-i-hate-religion-but.html[/url]
Norseman82 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 [quote name='GeorgiiMichael' timestamp='1326415656' post='2367987'] It's clear he's had some bad experiences with organized Christianity that go beyond what he cites in his poem. The problem here, of course, is that he's making a rule from an exception that he experienced. He's also blaming organized religion for his own failings as a sinner. Is whatever church he grew up in to blame for him being prim and proper on Sundays but relishing in his own hedonism the night before? Somehow, I think not. There must be more to the story. I wish I knew more. Also, the claim that Jesus hates religion? Wow. "And upon this rock I will build my church," certainly sounds like religion starting to me. Christianity is a religion, even if he doesn't want to call it that. Even his own sola scriptura by private interpretation. [/quote] It makes me wonder if he's just mad because he has to go to confession for his fornications (see one of his other videos). People want God on THEIR terms.
Norseman82 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1326412514' post='2367942'] i think BadCatholic came up with a good rebuttal: [url="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/2012/01/why-i-hate-religion-but-love-jesus-the-smackdow.html"]http://www.patheos.c...e-smackdow.html[/url] [/quote] It's so good it's on [url="http://www.realclearpolitics.com"]www.realclearpolitics.com[/url] !!!! (that's where I first read about this)
Norseman82 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 [quote name='CrossCuT' timestamp='1326410184' post='2367925'] Where does this guy live? I want to dominate him with my logic [/quote] Tacoma/Federal Way, Washington, I believe. He is on this website: [url="http://chiselseason.com/?p=1"]http://chiselseason.com/?p=1[/url]
Socrates Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 The irony is that in its own way, this kind of hip anti-"religion" "just me and Jesus" brand of belief that's oh-so-fashionable these days is every bit as obnoxiously self-righteous and judgmental as the square church-going "religion" it opposes, as well as rather lazy and self-serving imo. It doesn't involve the basic discipline of attending any church services or being involved with an organized Christian community, nor does it entail seriously challenging or going against the grain of prevalent secular society. Just do your own thing, proclaim yourself best pals with Jesus, then thank the Lord for not being like unto those awful phariseeical religious folks who attend church on Sunday and vote Republican.
cmotherofpirl Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 [url="http://phatcatholic.blogspot.com/2012/01/response-to-why-i-hate-religion-but.html"]http://phatcatholic.blogspot.com/2012/01/response-to-why-i-hate-religion-but.html[/url]
Oremoose Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Here is A neat blog a freind of my dad wrote on this topic. Just a little food for thought. [url="http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=24948"]http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=24948[/url]
Oremoose Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 And this is pretty razzle dazzle: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dqnfz4y8uA&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dqnfz4y8uA&feature=player_embedded[/url]#!
Oremoose Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Here is some more food for thought. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dqnfz4y8uA&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dqnfz4y8uA&feature=player_embedded[/url]#!
Norseman82 Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 [quote name='Oremoose' timestamp='1326565057' post='2368964'] Here is some more food for thought. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dqnfz4y8uA&feature=player_embedded[/media]#! [/quote] EPIC WIN!!!
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