Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus | Response & Discussion

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='Pontifex' timestamp='1327848826' post='2376938']
So the video received 32,000 views yesterday. The Muslim version received 39,000 yesterday. We have so many Catholics in this country, I just don't get it.
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Contentment in the truth is knowing you don't have to keep looking for things to attempt to prove you're correct.
(People who are insecure keep searching for proof that they are correct whereas when you have the truth you know it and don't feel the need to prove it.)

Edited January 29, 2012 by Mark of the Cross

[Whosoever]

Yes Jesus is alive and thriving! My question to you is this. Is Jesus alive and thriving in every member in your church congregation or are some members only going through motions but spiritually dead inside?

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='Whosoever' timestamp='1327882353' post='2377221']
Yes Jesus is alive and thriving! My question to you is this. Is Jesus alive and thriving in every member in your church congregation or are some members only going through motions but spiritually dead inside?
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Is Jesus alive and thriving in every member of your Church congregation or even most of them? If yes, let me know your secret and I will apply it to mine.

[Groo the Wanderer]

[quote name='Whosoever' timestamp='1327864213' post='2377042']
Thank you for correcting me. Personal relationship with God (not enjoy)
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not good enuff. how about oneness with God (like in the Eucharist) instead of just a relationship?

[Papist]

[quote name='Whosoever' timestamp='1327882353' post='2377221']
Yes Jesus is alive and thriving! My question to you is this. Is Jesus alive and thriving in every member in your church congregation or are some members only going through motions but spiritually dead inside?
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Ask that same question to the 12 Apostles. Now, what is the answer?

[Papist]

[quote name='Whosoever' timestamp='1327849755' post='2376944']
That's because many Catholic and Protestant churches are dead spiritually. It is time for all Christians to reunite and become
spiritually alive again! My pastor always says the first step is to attend church (find one that is you enjoy attending regardless if it is Catholic or Protestant), the next step is to read the Bible daily and third is daily prayers. Wake up folks! You are losing your youth
to the secular world where Christianity is mocked!
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I did not know that my spiritual aliveness is required to be visible to all. When you die and you are at the gate's of heaven and God asks you why do you deserve to go to heaven. Your answer is b/c Jesus died on the cross for you. What will you say if God then asks you, "Prove it."


[b]Matthew 25:31-46[/b] - Douay-Rheims
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And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty.
And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats:

And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.

Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink?

And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee?

Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee?

And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels.

For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink.

I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me.

Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee?

Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.[/quote]

Edited January 30, 2012 by Papist

[brianthephysicist]

^^ Can't prop that enough!

[MIKolbe]

[quote name='Mark of the Cross' timestamp='1327879970' post='2377205']
You ommitted that it is also necessary to practice what you read and pray for. 'Just knowing the path is not enough Neo, you must also walk it.' Faith equals salvation, salvation equals good works. You seem as though you are only half way there.
By the bold part[u] you[/u] are admitting defeat. Jesus is alive and thriving!
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[color=#008000]Neo, sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.[/color]

[Pontifex]

[quote name='Mark of the Cross' timestamp='1327880396' post='2377209']
Contentment in the truth is knowing you don't have to keep looking for things to attempt to prove you're correct.
(People who are insecure keep searching for proof that they are correct whereas when you have the truth you know it and don't feel the need to prove it.)
[/quote]

This is a good point. What does bother me, is that all of a sudden the Spirit Juice Video doesn't show up close to Bethke's video. Nothing has changed, the views coming in are regular, tags are the same, the title is the same. Anyway, IDK.

[Laudate_Dominum]

Mama used to say, religion is as religion does.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PqvDwBOp9Y"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PqvDwBOp9Y[/url]

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1327936798' post='2377639']
[color=#008000]Neo, sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.[/color]
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Lol. I was sprung plagiarising by the establishment. What will you give me for my penance?

[Guest]

Does Jesus love false religion ? Mormonism, Jehova Witnesses, Muslim, Scientolgy ect.ect.ect.

[Pontifex]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1327982063' post='2378098']
Does Jesus love false religion ? Mormonism, Jehova Witnesses, Muslim, Scientolgy ect.ect.ect.
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NO. Do you really not know the answer to that? Or is there a reason for such a question?

[Guest]

[quote name='Pontifex' timestamp='1327993091' post='2378164']


NO. Do you really not know the answer to that? Or is there a reason for such a question?
[/quote]Only that the original video could have been talking about these religions.

[Guest]

And actually I don't know if I know the answer. I'm not sure if Jesus hates them or not. I don't know.

[Guest]

Btw your video was amesome. Great job !

Edited January 31, 2012 by Guest

[brianthephysicist]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1327982063' post='2378098']
Does Jesus love false religion ? Mormonism, Jehova Witnesses, Muslim, Scientolgy ect.ect.ect.
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False religion = false teaching. Last I checked, God hated blasphemy.

He still loves the people in those false religions and wants them to know the truth about Him (some of them might be in ignorance while others may knowingly blaspheme) but I can't see Him loving the false religion in and of itself.

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1328008992' post='2378190']
Only that the original video could have been talking about these religions.
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Actually in the videos description it does say false religion.
Did Jesus love the religion of the Pharasees??? Well yes and no. He must have loved it or else he would not have said that he came to fulfil it. But he clearly indicated that he was not happy with what they were doing to it. And then they crucified him for that. Even from this he brought about the greatest good of all, the salvation of mankind. In other words Jesus does not generalise. In fact he was a great psychologist, teaching people to accept what is good and disregarding what is bad. The good Samaritan is an example of this. Jesus saw only the good of the man and that is what he endorsed. Therefore Jesus would love what was good of a religion and use what was bad to teach us. Jesus built his religion on Judaism even though it denies him.


[quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1328008992' post='2378190']
Only that the original video could have been talking about these religions.
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I'm pretty sure he was generalising, which includes Christianity. Which means he was making a false assumption. Like Dawkins he has little understanding of his subject!

Edited January 31, 2012 by Mark of the Cross

[Selah]

[quote name='Whosoever' timestamp='1327776204' post='2376576']
Religion makes people wierd
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Do-it-yourself-Christianity makes people weird too. Christians who ignore their historical origins, especially, and think they can do everything apart from the Church Christ founded, as long as he has his trusty paraphrase The Message Bible (which is missing books, btw).

Just sayin'

[Groo the Wanderer]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1328009086' post='2378192']
And actually I don't know if I know the answer. I'm not sure if Jesus hates them or not. I don't know.
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Jesus doesn't hate anyone, even those who hate Him.