Livin_the_MASS Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Just curious? I say charity all the way, to our brothers and sisters outside the Chruch and those within! Do you think charity brings unity, I say yes. Will it help bring others to Christ? I say yes. Comments! God Bless Jason
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 6, 2004 Author Posted May 6, 2004 Whoever voted charity not being important I'll say some Hail Mary's for ya Peace
Enda Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Of course charity will bring others to Christ, as a matter of fact it's [i]the only[/i] that will. Does anyone really think calling a gay man the f-word is going to get him to see his sinful ways? If you do, please seek help, since you are way out of touch with reality. Christ commanded us to love our neibour as we love ourselves and grouped it in his Great Commandment. Charity. Just do it.
cmotherofpirl Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 I think you are confusing people which is the most charitable 10 or 1?
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 6, 2004 Author Posted May 6, 2004 1 is Most important 10 is least important I know I messed up, sorry couldn't fix it! Peace
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 6, 2004 Author Posted May 6, 2004 If someone can make it more readable please do so
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 6, 2004 Author Posted May 6, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='May 5 2004, 08:16 PM'] Is that better? [/quote] I love you Cmom, Thanx God Bless You Jason
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 6, 2004 Author Posted May 6, 2004 Nobody wants charity huh? Your in my prayers
Enda Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Jason, I think you're scale got everybody confused, and is still getting people confused. I know was.
amarkich Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Charity is the greatest virtue, above faith according to the Bible (just for the Fundamentalists who adhere to Sola Fide who are reading). I selected 1 as the answer because this is true, but we have to understand the true meaning of charity. The "ecumenical" activity where we pray with Protestants and other heretics is not a form of charity. This is not true charity. It is impossible to please God without the Cathoilc faith (Council of Trent, Session V), and therefore the prayer of anyone outside the Church does not bring honor to God but rather is a blasphemy to God. The virtue of charity also does not mean that we should be passive but rather that we should imitate Our Lord, Who was certainly not passive, in our endeavors and dealing with others. God bless.
VeiledAMerici Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 [quote name='amarkich' date='May 5 2004, 07:48 PM'] Charity is the greatest virtue, above faith according to the Bible (just for the Fundamentalists who adhere to Sola Fide who are reading). I selected 1 as the answer because this is true, but we have to understand the true meaning of charity. The "ecumenical" activity where we pray with Protestants and other heretics is not a form of charity. This is not true charity. It is impossible to please God without the Cathoilc faith (Council of Trent, Session V), and therefore the prayer of anyone outside the Church does not bring honor to God but rather is a blasphemy to God. The virtue of charity also does not mean that we should be passive but rather that we should imitate Our Lord, Who was certainly not passive, in our endeavors and dealing with others. God bless. [/quote] Whoa whoa, are you saying that Catholics shouldn't pray for Protestants. I always thought (and maybe this is wrong) that you should pray for sinners (as it states in the Lord's Prayer) including those who have strayed from the Truth. Please explain.
Ash Wednesday Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Now I remember why I usually find myself more in the Open Mic and less at the Debate Table. *votes #1 and leaves*
M.SIGGA Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 [quote name='amarkich' date='May 5 2004, 07:48 PM'] Charity is the greatest virtue, above faith according to the Bible (just for the Fundamentalists who adhere to Sola Fide who are reading). I selected 1 as the answer because this is true, but we have to understand the true meaning of charity. The "ecumenical" activity where we pray with Protestants and other heretics is not a form of charity. This is not true charity. It is impossible to please God without the Cathoilc faith (Council of Trent, Session V), and therefore the prayer of anyone outside the Church does not bring honor to God but rather is a blasphemy to God. The virtue of charity also does not mean that we should be passive but rather that we should imitate Our Lord, Who was certainly not passive, in our endeavors and dealing with others. God bless. [/quote] I recall the Archbishop of Canterbury and an Orthodox Patriarch, trailed by a procession of many different Christian confessions helping Pope John Paul II open the Holy Door in 2000 - All praying in unison to Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior praising His Great Jubilee. Our great Pope showed the world true Christian Charity. I also chose #1
Dave Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 I can't remember, but I might have voted 10 when I meant 1. Usually 1-10 scales have 10 being the most and 1 being the least. But if I did vote 10, it's my own fault for not reading it carefully enough.
cmotherofpirl Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 [quote name='amarkich' date='May 5 2004, 09:48 PM'] Charity is the greatest virtue, above faith according to the Bible (just for the Fundamentalists who adhere to Sola Fide who are reading). I selected 1 as the answer because this is true, but we have to understand the true meaning of charity. The "ecumenical" activity where we pray with Protestants and other heretics is not a form of charity. This is not true charity. It is impossible to please God without the Cathoilc faith (Council of Trent, Session V), and therefore the prayer of anyone outside the Church does not bring honor to God but rather is a blasphemy to God. The virtue of charity also does not mean that we should be passive but rather that we should imitate Our Lord, Who was certainly not passive, in our endeavors and dealing with others. God bless. [/quote] So praying with our protestant brothers and sisters outside an abortion clinic or for world peace is wrong? Those people who are sincerely seeking God and have not yet found Him are pleasing to God by responding to His call in their hearts. Not everyone has a conversion experience like St Paul. Many come to the Church after serious and long searching, and their search and prayers is certainly not a blasphemy. There is nothing wrong with evangelization, but you will never get very far if you constantly refer to people as heretics and blasphemers
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 6, 2004 Author Posted May 6, 2004 amarkich, The true meaning of charity and love is to lay down our life for sinners, even those who hurt us! Jesus came not to condemn the world but that it might be saved! Your statement contradicts itself, one minute you say you pick charity than you start judging others. Charity would pray, charity would sacrifice for their soul. Peace brother Jason
the lumberjack Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='May 6 2004, 12:47 PM'] So praying with our protestant brothers and sisters outside an abortion clinic or for world peace is wrong? [/quote] THIS is what I'm talkin bout!!! I am glad to think that you would consider me a brother in Christ, even though I do not subscribe to every aspect of the Catholic Church. even though, as amarkich has so zealously stated, all the documents beaver dam me and "my kind"...and we are not technically brothers and sisters in Christ. I am glad in my heart to see that there are those that look past that...to where real relationship lie. our doctrines and walks might never be exactly the same, but so long as we're here, we can keep one another from going widely astray... God bless. In Christ... the lumberjack. ps word to cmom. -_-
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