Taize?

[the171]

[quote name='Not The Philosopher' timestamp='1344908133' post='2467270']
My apologies.

(Haven't figured out how to edit posts yet...)
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it's fine. My picture was and my name is rather masculine. LOL

Just don't screw up again or you'll choke on a discipline.

[MissScripture]

[quote name='Not The Philosopher' timestamp='1344908133' post='2467270']
My apologies.

(Haven't figured out how to edit posts yet...)
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There is a time limit in which to edit posts. You probably are out of time. If you are able to, there is an edit button at the bottom right of your post.

[the171]

This is a discipline. LOL

[img]http://www.scp-inc.org/publications/journals/J2902/Images/cord_like_whip.JPG[/img]

[FutureCarmeliteClaire]

[quote name='the171' timestamp='1344910499' post='2467285']
This is a discipline. LOL

[img]http://www.scp-inc.org/publications/journals/J2902/Images/cord_like_whip.JPG[/img]
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That is scary. LOL

[Luigi]

Taize (pronounce Tay-ZAY) is a town in the Burgundy region of France. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiz%C3%A9_Community"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiz%C3%A9_Community[/url]

It hosts an ecumenical monastic group.

A particular style of music evolved there. "[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]The community, though Western European in origin, has sought to include people and traditions worldwide. They have sought to demonstrate this in the music and prayers where songs are sung in many languages, and have included [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chants"]chants[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] and [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icons"]icons[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] from the[/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox"]Eastern Orthodox[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] tradition. The music emphasizes simple phrases, usually lines from [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalms"]Psalms[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] or other pieces of [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripture"]Scripture[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3], repeated and sometimes also sung in canon.[/size][/font][/color][sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiz%C3%A9_Community#cite_note-TZMusic-10"][11][/url][/sup][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] Earlier Taizé community music was conceived and composed by [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Berthier"]Jacques Berthier[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3].[/size][/font][/color][sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiz%C3%A9_Community#cite_note-denver-11"][12][/url][/sup][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] Later[/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Gelineau"]Joseph Gelineau[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] became a major contributor to the music.[/size][/font][/color][sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiz%C3%A9_Community#cite_note-denver-11"][12][/url]"[/sup]

[Amppax]

Here's a good example of it. Not sure what the heck is in the picture, but its a good example of the music.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2o27qpvfUc&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2o27qpvfUc&feature=related[/url]

[cappie]

I believe that Taizé worship is a service that fills a place in the liturgical life of a congregation, which otherwise can be wordy. We need the evocative, the haunting, and the beautiful.

[Papist]

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1344898676' post='2467170']
From my what I have experienced, the songs are always very repetitive, but it is always at least a whole sentence (I think "centering prayer" might be a single word/phrase, but I'm not sure). It IS meditative, but kind of reminds me more of the repetition in praying the rosary or the divine mercy chaplet and less like a "mantra" precisely? I dunno if that made sense...
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My experience was not through song, but with quiet repetitive phrases facilitated by a nun. The whole experience stunk of new age poo-poo. It probably is not a fair assessment of taize prayer b/c this nun was pretty much dissenting in her beliefs.

[filius_angelorum]

I like some taize music outside of Mass, but within Mass it seems to me to emphasize the personal/devotional aspect of Mass to the exclusion of the liturgical/devotional. However, some of the songs seem to me to follow the modern trend of making something incredibly complex sound simple and humble, which baffles community participation, rather than making something simple and humble sound complex.

[morostheos]

Also, [url="http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=41354"]the pope gave the Taize community an apostolic blessing in 2005[/url]

[quote][color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4]The Vatican has made public a message from Pope Benedict XVI to members of the Taize community, who will gather in Milan next week for the first meeting of the ecumenical community since the death of its founder, Brother Roger Schultz.[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4]
About 50,000 young people are expected to gather in Milan on December 28. They will receive an unfinished letter written by Brother Roger shortly before he was killed, in August. They will also receive a message from the Pope, saying in part: "May the example of the founder of Taize and the tireless testimony of Pope John Paul II in favor of dialogue and peace encourage you to be peacemakers in your turn."[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4]The Pope's message praises the legacy of Brother Roger and encourages the Taize community to continued building "a spirit of brotherhood and peace." That spirit is particularly necessary today, he writes, in a world "made fragile by many situations of tension, and in our developed societies marked by new forms of violence that affect the young in particular."[/size][/font][/color][/quote]

[AnneLine]

I think it just depends on the way it is used (as is true for all music)....

Taize refrains can be very thoughtful and prayerful after communion or as at the end of Mass. Many of them are in Latin... and for some people, is their first intro to it....

Our parish often sings 'Jesus Remember Me' a capella as the final hymn on Palm Sunday.... and it invariably results in a full church with no one leaving until the music trails off.... and then people leaving in silence (or staying to pray quietly).... must be doing something right....

Taize style music also can be done outside of Mass -- and then then is usually the congregation praying the refrain, and one or two solo voices singing over them in a meditataive way. Sometimes done in ecumenical settings, or just as a non-eucharistic prayer service. This video is a pretty good example of that:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mLfr2vfbZk&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mLfr2vfbZk&feature=related[/url]

I wouldn't want it every day, but I do find it very prayerful....

[MissyP89]

^^^ That one is one of my favorites!

[PhuturePriest]

I think tazers are the most hilarious thing to ever be created. Why doth thou asketh?

[MissyP89]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Svh-9ohg4

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbb-kaurSW0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbb-kaurSW0[/url]

[Groo the Wanderer]

got one for 'adoramus te domine'?

[AnneLine]

A sus ordenes, senor!

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6Zr3EqIhE[/media]

Per the comments....


Jesus Son of the living God
Jesus eternal light
Jesus Strong God eternal Lord
Jesus merciful
Jesus God of Peace
Jesus mankind's Friend
Jesus goodness without mesure
Jesus True Wisdom


Jésus, Fils du Dieu vivant
Jésus, lumière éternelle
Jésus, Dieu fort, Seigneur éternel
Jésus, Jésus doux et humble de coeur
Jésus, Dieu de paix
Jésus, ami des hommes
Jésus, essence de vie
Jésus, bonté sans mesure
Jésus, sagesse véritable

Edited August 16, 2012 by AnneLine

[sixpence]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1UOt3kMkF4

actually there is one that starts off adoramus te christe that i really like

[AnneLine]

If you haven't checked out their website, the Taize France website is a very interesting one.... you select your language... .and it takes you into the site.

[url="http://www.taize.fr/"]http://www.taize.fr/[/url]

And under the section on 'prayer and song' they have some interesting info about incorporating silence, song and contemplative prayer into personal prayer. Can be very helpful for some people who aren't sure how to do this...

Here's the English page...

[url="http://www.taize.fr/en_rubrique12.html"]http://www.taize.fr/en_rubrique12.html[/url]

[beatitude]

I love Taize. I went for the first time last year, although I'd been attending Taize prayer meetings for years before that.

Brother Roger, who founded the community, was a Protestant. He was, however, very influenced by the spirituality of Bl. Charles de Foucauld (if you go to Taize you will see that a couple of the buildings are named after places in de Foucauld's life) and the community shares de Foucauld's emphasis on unity.

It's the best example of faithful ecumenism that I've seen. Catholics are not required to compromise on any doctrine, for example. The Blessed Sacrament is reserved in the chapel, and great respect is shown for it. Catholic Mass is celebrated every day. Often a Protestant communion service is held too, but never to the exclusion of Mass, and the brothers make the difference very clear. They're always careful to explain who can receive communion where for those who might not know. Sometimes they have Orthodox Divine Liturgy as well.

The main chapel is simple, but very reverent. Signs tell everyone to come in to prayer dressed modestly (there are strips of cloth available for people to wrap around their shoulders if it's summer and they're not wearing sleeves). I have never seen a longer queue for confession in my life than at the Friday penitential service at Taize. I waited nearly two hours for my turn, and it was beautiful. The level of devotion there is very moving.

If you ever get the chance to go, take it.