"pregnant Man" Files For Divorce

[Lil Red]

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2012/08/pregnant-man-files-for-divorce/
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The “pregnant man” may soon be a male single mother.
[url="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Thomas+Beatie"]Thomas Beatie[/url], a transgender man who bore three children, is filing for divorce from his wife Nancy, [url="http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/thomas-beatie-pregnant-man-files-for-divorce-from-wife-nancy-beatie-judge-questions-marriage"]WPTV reported[/url].
But a judge is questioning whether their marriage was legally valid in the first place. Beatie is hoping it is, even though it’d be cheaper for him if it wasn’t.
He was born as a woman in Hawaii and had a sex change before getting married in 2003, though he still has female reproductive organs.
He bore three of the couple’s children because his wife was infertile, and made headlines when photos of him with a beard and a pregnant belly were made public.
Hawaii recognizes Beatie, 37, as a man. But Arizona, where he lives now, does not because he still had female organs when he wed Nancy. The state does not allow same-sex marriage.[/indent]

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[IcePrincessKRS]

I like how well your avatar pairs with this story. lol

[FutureCarmeliteClaire]

[PhuturePriest]

Well, I can't say I am surprised. I also hope people stop calling her a guy. You are affiliated with your sexual gender by your sexual organ. I don't care if you look like an Amazon, you're still a woman.

Edited August 16, 2012 by FuturePriest387

[Slappo]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345131575' post='2468620']
Well, I can't say I am surprised. I also hope people stop calling her a guy. You are affiliated with your sexual gender by your chromosomes [s]sexual organ[/s]. I don't care if you look like an Amazon, you're still a woman.
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Fixed...

[Basilisa Marie]

[EmilyAnn]

[Papist]

After being forced to give 50% of 'his' possessions, becoming a man ain't what it was cracked up to be.

[sixpence]

[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' timestamp='1345130502' post='2468615']
I like how well your avatar pairs with this story. lol
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i was totally thinking that too!!!

[EmilyAnn]

I feel sorry for the children.

[Egidio]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345131575' post='2468620']
Well, I can't say I am surprised. I also hope people stop calling her a guy. You are affiliated with your sexual gender by your sexual organ. I don't care if you look like an Amazon, you're still a woman.
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Actually, the gender of a person is part of their substance, part of their very essense. As Bl. JPII pointed out, there is no such thing as a human person who happens to be male or female (in philosophical language, gender is NOT accidental to the person), a person is either a male person or a female person, in spite of what they have done to their bodies...



What a confused age we live in, let us pray for HER ,and as says Emily Ann, especially for the children!



AVE MARIA!!

[Papist]

Let's be clear. This was not a pregnant man. This was a pregnant woman that had her body modified to appear as a man.

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='Slappo' timestamp='1345140326' post='2468654']
Fixed...
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You're being too scientific. Chromosomes are my most hated subject on the planet...

[cmotherofpirl]

Where is Catherine when you need her?

[cmotherofpirl]

This reminds me of the scientist explaining the theory of meta-universes, sounds interesting in theory, but the practicalities are mind-boggling.

[CatherineM]

My ears were burning. A human's gender is the gender they are born with according to God, the Church, and many states. We are going to see more and more of this mess as we allowed same gendered persons to "marry," more than one mom and one dad to be on a birth certificate, surrogates, etc. They are talking about test tube babies using more than two sets of genes now.

If the grown ups are confused, God help the children involved. States are going to be in a real mess trying to settle these divorce and child custody issues. We are going to need a bunch of King Solomon's soon.

Now none of this included those who are actually born with indeterminate gender. Their crosses are so heavy that I can't even contemplate enduring it. Can you image being a mom asking the OBGYN, is it a boy or girl and having the doctor say they don't know, or saying a bit of both. Even worse being a kid that physically looks like a girl, but then starts developing as a boy at puberty because they are genetically a male. Their burdens make those who just want to change their genders look quite frivolous.

[Gabriela]

I'm a little confused here, but possibly because I've been a little over-educated in the gender studies departments at my universities. "Sex" is the word usually used to refer to biological parts. "Gender" is a "social construction" that normally correlates clearly with sex differences. Only obviously that correlation is getting all messed up these days.

Are you all using "gender" for some Catholic reason I don't know about?

[Gabriela]

And BTW, if y'all think that's bad, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyoh3vj4UTA

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1345249644' post='2469434']
My ears were burning. A human's gender is the gender they are born with according to God, the Church, and many states. We are going to see more and more of this mess as we allowed same gendered persons to "marry," more than one mom and one dad to be on a birth certificate, surrogates, etc. They are talking about test tube babies using more than two sets of genes now.

If the grown ups are confused, God help the children involved. States are going to be in a real mess trying to settle these divorce and child custody issues. We are going to need a bunch of King Solomon's soon.

Now none of this included those who are actually born with indeterminate gender. Their crosses are so heavy that I can't even contemplate enduring it. Can you image being a mom asking the OBGYN, is it a boy or girl and having the doctor say they don't know, or saying a bit of both. Even worse being a kid that physically looks like a girl, but then starts developing as a boy at puberty because they are genetically a male. Their burdens make those who just want to change their genders look quite frivolous.
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Are you using sex and gender as interchangable terms?