TraditionalCatholic5 Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 A friend of mine is interested in religious life and the priesthood and is looking for a religious community that has a focus on celebrating the mass reverently, and solemnly.. He isn't looking for a EF community (he actually is a OF guy only).. I suggested the Canons Regular of St John Cantius because they serve in parish ministry (which he wants to do), live in community (another thing he wants), and have as their charism Restoration of the Sacred. I also recommended a Franciscan Community but they didn't work in parishes..The only problem with them was he didn't feel called to celebrate the EF of the Roman Rite.. So if you know of a community that focuses on celebration of a beauty OF liturgy, community life, and parish work please post it here or pm me!! So if anyway can help me out a little, please do!! Thanks so much! I'm sure my friend will appreciate all the suggestions.
Lisa Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) The Eastern Province Dominicans seem to celebrate a beautiful liturgy. They celebrate the Dominican Rite (similar to the Traditional Latin Mass) on occasion. They work on campuses and in parishes, among other things. Edited August 20, 2012 by Lisa
Gemma Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Canons based on the Rule of St Augustine, which, as one poster here commented, is the canonical rule based on Acts. That being said, the Norbertines; Dominicans; Mercedarians; Canons Regular of the New Jerusalem.… Google "Canons regular" and see what he comes up with. "Clerks Regular" are usually societies of priests. Blessings, Gemma
Studiumecclesiae Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Why not try the Benedictines of the Solesmes Congregation? All their vocation is about the Liturgy. Well if he felt called to celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass, I'd suggest the ICKSP.
EmilyAnn Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 [quote name='Studiumecclesiae' timestamp='1345473304' post='2470590'] Why not try the Benedictines of the Solesmes Congregation? All their vocation is about the Liturgy. Well if he felt called to celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass, I'd suggest the ICKSP. [/quote] That's actually a very good suggestion. I'm hoping to enter a Solesmes community and their liturgy is beautiful. The only male Solesmes community in the US is EF ([url="http://www.clearcreekmonks.org/"]Clear Creek[/url]) but [url="http://www.quarrabbey.co.uk/"]Quarr Abbey[/url] in England is OF (in Latin) - they celebrate the Mass for my sisters and they are wonderfully reverent.
PhuturePriest Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 [quote name='Studiumecclesiae' timestamp='1345473304' post='2470590'] Why not try the Benedictines of the Solesmes Congregation? All their vocation is about the Liturgy. Well if he felt called to celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass, I'd suggest the ICKSP. [/quote] The problem with the Benedictines of the Solesmes Congregation is that they do the Latin Mass daily. This isn't a problem and I actually like it, but for the discerner in question this seems as if it would pose a problem.
EmilyAnn Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345477082' post='2470618'] The problem with the Benedictines of the Solesmes Congregation is that they do the Latin Mass daily. This isn't a problem and I actually like it, but for the discerner in question this seems as if it would pose a problem. [/quote] Not all Solesmes communities have the EF though. I'm fairly sure they all have Latin, but some are OF.
beatitude Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 The Benedictines place great emphasis on the liturgy as part of their charism. Looking at a few Benedictine communities might be a helpful starting point for him.
Chiquitunga Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 The Community of St. Martin fits that description, but they're in France - [url="http://www.communautesaintmartin.org/"]http://www.communautesaintmartin.org/[/url] The Oratorians was a good suggestion.. though I don't know much about them.
AnneLine Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 I'll also echo the comments about the Dominicans of the Western Province, and the Discalced Carmelites in the Western Province as well. [url="http://www.opwest.org/Vocations/vocation-discernment"]http://www.opwest.org/Vocations/vocation-discernment[/url] Good solid formation, and very beautiful liturgies.... and a strong prayer and intellectual focus along with a preaching ministry... and parishes & college ministries. Very excellent province! [url="http://www.discalcedcarmelites.com/aboutus.html"]http://www.discalcedcarmelites.com/aboutus.html[/url] (Discalced Carmelites are very prayerful in their liturgy, but not as much into liturgy qua liturgy as contemplative prayer and liturgy leading to prayer and service.... but it is a beautiful, prayerful traditional Province.....) Perhaps also.... the IVE Fathers? Beautiful liturgies, solid spirituality, focusing on Sp. Exercises of St. Ignatius, Priestly & lay formation... parishes... might be a good fit.... [url="http://www.iveamerica.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=8&Itemid=3"]http://www.iveamerica.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=8&Itemid=3[/url]
Maximilianus Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Gemma' timestamp='1345471349' post='2470572'] Canons based on the Rule of St Augustine, which, as one poster here commented, is the canonical rule based on Acts. That being said, the Norbertines; Dominicans; Mercedarians; Canons Regular of the New Jerusalem.… Google "Canons regular" and see what he comes up with. "Clerks Regular" are usually societies of priests. Blessings, Gemma [/quote] If the OP's friend is looking to avoid the EF, then he might as well avoid the Dominicans and Mercedarians. He might find himself attending the Mass in the Dominican rite and from what I understand this use is growing. With the Mercedarians he might find himself attending the EF as both forms are used...or at least as of last year. [size=1](the OP's friend shouldn't discriminate against these orders because of that, he should be running to them.)[/size] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/echo4lima/th_op.png?t=1320039256[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/echo4lima/th_merced.png?t=1320038943[/img] Edited August 20, 2012 by Maximilianus
AnneLine Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Hmmmm... Maximilianus, I can't speak to the Mercidarians, but I do have a fair experience with the Western Dominicans. Some of the priests are really interested in Dominican Rite, and one or two parishes in the Province are super-traditional... but I don't think it is much beyond that (at least at this point). The rest are exposed to the Dominican Rite, but at least at this point (who know where things could go in the future...) the focus is on really praying the EF well. And on learning the proper way to do liturgy. And on beautifully sung LOTH... and adoration.... and study... and ministry. The whole Dominican package... and their Novice Master... is a saint (and has a wicked sense of humor, to boot....) Maximilianus, there are a number of indidividual priests and brothers who are bloggers and contributers to some of the more traditional blogs... and Fr. Brian Mullady on EWTN is from this Province.... they aren't against anyone being on the traditionalist wing, but most parishes are really more focused on well-done OF.... those who WANT to be involved in EF can do so (or in Byzantine rite, etc.), but it isn't a focus of the Province per se that I have seen.... my two cents.... [color=#0000FF][size=2]P.S. -- I LOVE your little friars! [/size][/color][color=#FF0000][size=2]DUST - we need li'l friar emoticoms,,, and MAX is the MAN for them!!![/size][/color] Edited August 20, 2012 by AnneLine
AnneLine Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) [quote name='AnneLine' timestamp='1345490982' post='2470712'] Hmmmm... Maximilianus, I can't speak to the Mercidarians, but I do have a fair experience with the Western Dominicans. Some of the priests are really interested in Dominican Rite, and one or two parishes in the Province are super-traditional... but I don't think it is much beyond that (at least at this point). The rest are exposed to the Dominican Rite, but at least at this point (who know where things could go in the future...) the focus is on really praying the EF well. And on learning the proper way to do liturgy. And on beautifully sung LOTH... and adoration.... and study... and ministry. The whole Dominican package... and their Novice Master... is a saint (and has a wicked sense of humor, to boot....) Maximilianus, there are a number of indidividual priests and brothers who are bloggers and contributers to some of the more traditional blogs... and Fr. Brian Mullady on EWTN is from this Province.... they aren't against anyone being on the traditionalist wing, but most parishes are really more focused on well-done OF.... those who WANT to be involved in EF can do so (or in Byzantine rite, etc.), but it isn't a focus of the Province per se that I have seen.... my two cents.... [color=#0000FF][size=2]P.S. -- I LOVE your little friars! [/size][/color][color=#FF0000][size=2]DUST - we need li'l friar emoticoms,,, and MAX is the MAN for them!!![/size][/color] [/quote] Too late for me to correct it... but.... A VS eagle-eyed member (who shall be nameless!) PMed me that I made a BOO BOO in the above post.... that should have read ....The rest are exposed to the Dominican Rite, but at least at this point (who know where things could go in the future...) the focus is on really praying the [s]EF[/s] [color=#FF0000]OF [/color]well. I think it was clear from context, but thanks for the Catch! Edited August 20, 2012 by AnneLine
Maximilianus Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 [quote name='AnneLine' timestamp='1345490982' post='2470712'] Hmmmm... Maximilianus, I can't speak to the Mercidarians, but I do have a fair experience with the Western Dominicans. Some of the priests are really interested in Dominican Rite, and one or two parishes in the Province are super-traditional... but I don't think it is much beyond that (at least at this point). The rest are exposed to the Dominican Rite, but at least at this point (who know where things could go in the future...) the focus is on really praying the EF well. And on learning the proper way to do liturgy. And on beautifully sung LOTH... and adoration.... and study... and ministry. The whole Dominican package... and their Novice Master... is a saint (and has a wicked sense of humor, to boot....) Maximilianus, there are a number of indidividual priests and brothers who are bloggers and contributers to some of the more traditional blogs... and Fr. Brian Mullady on EWTN is from this Province.... they aren't against anyone being on the traditionalist wing, but most parishes are really more focused on well-done OF.... those who WANT to be involved in EF can do so (or in Byzantine rite, etc.), but it isn't a focus of the Province per se that I have seen.... my two cents.... [color=#0000FF][size=2]P.S. -- I LOVE your little friars! [/size][/color][color=#FF0000][size=2]DUST - we need li'l friar emoticoms,,, and MAX is the MAN for them!!![/size][/color] [/quote] Like I said, might. The use isn't the focus, but it is growing, that said I haven't seen any indication of it becoming the exclusive use.I would wager that a few other orders may use the EF on occasion as well, such as the Jesuits. You can't escape the Usus Antiquior, muhuhuhuhuahahah just kidding, I don't laugh like that.
AnneLine Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 "You can't escape the Usus Antiquior, muhuhuhuhuahahah." muhuhuhuhuahahah INDEED! [i][color=#800080](Maybe we need a Bella Lugosi or Dracula emoticom, too!)[/color][/i] [color=#0000FF][size=2]P.S. -- I LOVE your little friars! [/size][/color][color=#FF0000][size=2]DUST - we need li'l friar emoticoms,,, and MAX is the MAN for them!!![/size][/color]
OnlySunshine Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Here are some that are on IRL that have parish ministry: [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/100"]Norbertines of St. Michael's Abbey[/url] [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/72"]Canons Regular of the Immaculate Conception[/url] [url="http://db.religiouslife.com/reg_life/irl.nsf/org/90"]Oblates of the Virgin Mary[/url]
PhuturePriest Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Maybe the Fathers of Mercy? Their apostolate is preaching, but they do a lot in the liturgical sense, and I do not believe they do the Latin Mass. Other than that the only other Community that is dedicated to the liturgy and the liturgy alone is the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter, or FSSP, and they do the Extraordinary Form of the Mass only, unfortunately.
Studiumecclesiae Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 [quote name='AnneLine' timestamp='1345492979' post='2470734'] "You can't escape the Usus Antiquior, muhuhuhuhuahahah." muhuhuhuhuahahah INDEED! [i][color=#800080](Maybe we need a Bella Lugosi or Dracula emoticom, too!)[/color][/i] [color=#0000FF][size=2]P.S. -- I LOVE your little friars! [/size][/color][color=#FF0000][size=2]DUST - we need li'l friar emoticoms,,, and MAX is the MAN for them!!![/size][/color] [/quote] Well I dunno what I'd do without my so beloved Traditional Latin Mass! [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345526025' post='2471110'] Maybe the Fathers of Mercy? Their apostolate is preaching, but they do a lot in the liturgical sense, and I do not believe they do the Latin Mass. Other than that the only other Community that is dedicated to the liturgy and the liturgy alone is the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter, or FSSP, and they do the Extraordinary Form of the Mass only, unfortunately. [/quote] Well why does your friend doesn't learn how to have a better understanding of the Tridentine Mass? It's always tough the first 6 months, but then once you're in it, you see all the richness of this magnificent rite.
NonNovi Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 The [url="http://www.sjm-congregation.org"]SJM[/url] celebrate very reverently (at least the priests I know). They are biritual, their priests have to learn both EF and OF. For their private Mass they can choose. And in public it depends on what is wanted. In France they have a parish where they celebrate both (oh yeah, forgot to mention, they are only in Europe). Many of the priests like the EF more though.
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