Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

[southern california guy]

[quote name='southern california guy' timestamp='1350244787' post='2493347']
As a gardener I'm looking forward to global warming! I want to grow a mangosteen fruit tree!!!

[img]http://www.palmssc.org/2006Sept/06MarRV014bMd.jpg[/img]
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[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1350253276' post='2493390']
Sure. 20 million Bangladeshies may be displaced by this, with their rice fields wiped out, but you get to have a mango tree. Nothing narcissistic about that.
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They can move to Asia. I already have [size=5][b]2[/b][/size] mango trees! I want to get a mangosteen!!! "Narcissistic"? I don't know what that is.. but it doesn't sound good!

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6DsH1nyZbbI/T7Eexo_MolI/AAAAAAAAAGM/ebPoFlG_BLs/s320/fresh-mangosteen-fruit.jpg[/img]

Edited October 15, 2012 by southern california guy

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[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350254869' post='2493401']
it also has many examples of iriots drinking the koolaid of the liberal media, having no sense of humor,[/QUOTE]

You make me sad.

[QUOTE]and whackjobs that think wiki is a magisterial document.[/QUOTE]

Not a magisterial document. Not even a document at all since it's a digital media. But a decent source for somebody with no idea what they are talking about to get a decent intro to a topic.

[QUOTE]is the earth warming? yes. [/QUOTE]

True

[QUOTE]anything we can do about it? no.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely wrong.

[QUOTE] natural cyclic phenomena? yep.[/QUOTE]

Natural cycles are involved. Hey, I wonder if natural warming cycles could be exacerbated by putting incredible amounts of a substance into the atmosphere that helps retain heat. Hm. That's a thinker.

[QUOTE]worry about it? nope[/QUOTE]


Do you have children

[QUOTE]so even if the waters do rise, it won;t be overnight. good thing God gave people legs..so they can walk away from the waterline...derp.[/QUOTE]

You really don't understand what you're talking about.




[QUOTE]disclaimer: anyone else making tongue-in-cheek jokes beware...serious lack of funny bones going on...
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Oh. A lot of people are going to die in famines that could be avoided or mitigated. LOL!!


Humor is fine. Dark humor is fine. It's a great way to deal with the tragedies in life. But this isn't cleverness that I'm seeing. I'm seeing stupid attempts to deflect from a serious subject with humor. An attempt to use humor to create an ironic barrier that allows people to sleep comfortably knowing deep down that they are making decisions that will severely [i][color=#ff0000]floop[/color][/i] up the lives of incredible large numbers of people.

If you have children then the attitude you have towards this is appalling If you give the slightest [i][color=#ff0000]floop[/color][/i] about the poor of the world then your attitude about this is appalling.

Edited October 15, 2012 by Hasan

[4588686]

[quote name='southern california guy' timestamp='1350265347' post='2493487']
They can move to Asia. I already have [size=5][b]2[/b][/size] mango trees! I want to get a mangosteen!!! "Narcissistic"? I don't know what that is.. but it doesn't sound good!

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6DsH1nyZbbI/T7Eexo_MolI/AAAAAAAAAGM/ebPoFlG_BLs/s320/fresh-mangosteen-fruit.jpg[/img]
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A narcissist is an individual who only thinks about himself. An example of narcissism would be somebody who is happy to seriously disrupt the lives of millions of people if it means that he get's to add a mango tree to his garden.

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1350266781' post='2493493']Oh. A lot of people are going to die in famines that could be avoided or mitigated. LOL!!


Humor is fine. Dark humor is fine. It's a great way to deal with the tragedies in life. But this isn't cleverness that I'm seeing. I'm seeing stupid attempts to deflect from a serious subject with humor. An attempt to use humor to create an ironic barrier that allows people to sleep comfortably knowing deep down that they are making decisions that will severely [i][color=#ff0000]floop[/color][/i] up the lives of incredible large numbers of people.

If you have children then the attitude you have towards this is appalling If you give the slightest [i][color=#ff0000]floop[/color][/i] about the poor of the world then your attitude about this is appalling.
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Nevermind that hackers have repeatedly exposed it as false science, if you don't agree that global warming will kill us all unless we support Obama's cap and trade and electric cars that explode in our driveways ideas than you hate the poor and are a heartless bastage.

[4588686]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350255021' post='2493403']


wiki again? dude - move out of your parents' basement. that's like reading the back of a froot loops box for a geometry lesson.[/QUOTE]

I've only cited wikipedia once. You actually could fit a lot of basic geometric proofs on the back of a cereal box. I think you may want to focus more on basic arithmetic, specifically the difference between a number being equal to one as opposed to more than one, before moving onto something like geometry.

[QUOTE]yes i have a daughter. good thing i taught her to swim, huh? LORF!!!
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Then, in this particular instance, you are being irresponsible as a parent.

[4588686]

[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1350267181' post='2493495']
Nevermind that hackers have repeatedly exposed it as false science[/QUOTE]

That is not true. Do three minutes of research

[QUOTE] if you don't agree that global warming will kill us all unless we support Obama's cap and trade and electric cars that explode in our driveways ideas than you hate the poor and are a heartless bastage.
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Cap and trade is a republican idea. But yes, if you aren't willing to seriously engage with the problems of climate change then you are being morally irresponsible. Sorry.

[4588686]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1350255268' post='2493404']


[color=#222222][font=Helvetica Neue', Arial, Verdana, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]At the end of the day, anthropogenic global warming is a scientific question that must be settled by scientists. That means tests, hard data, and peer reviews. No talking heads, liberal or conservative, have either the scientific knowledge and training, or the in-depth understanding of the actual questions to have even the smallest idea what they are talking about.

After all, anyone with more than a quarter of a brain can see how appalling the media is at reporting on anything vaguely science related. They practically just make up their entire articles, based on the first and last sentence of the abstract. It is pathetic.

I certainly am not equipped to make sweeping statements on the issue. So rather than asking Al Gore or Rush Limbaugh to do my thinking for me, I would rather know what the [i]actual data[/i] and [i]actual studies[/i] support.[/background][/size][/font][/color]
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It has been settled by scientists. I recently linked a physicist from Berkeley who was a climate change skeptic (one of the very, very few legitimate scientists who still was) who did a massive study via his institute, in large part funded by the Koch brothers, who concluded that the evidence is simply undeniable.

I linked the actual statement but here is a reporting of it. If you want to find the actual study that'd be pretty easy to do.

[url="http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-kochfunded-climate-change-skeptic-reverses-course-20120729,0,7372823.story"]http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-kochfunded-climate-change-skeptic-reverses-course-20120729,0,7372823.story[/url]

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1350267809' post='2493498']


It has been settled by scientists. I recently linked a physicist from Berkeley who was a climate change skeptic (one of the very, very few legitimate scientists who still was) who did a massive study via his institute, in large part funded by the Koch brothers, who concluded that the evidence is simply undeniable.

I linked the actual statement but here is a reporting of it. If you want to find the actual study that'd be pretty easy to do.

[url="http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-kochfunded-climate-change-skeptic-reverses-course-20120729,0,7372823.story"]http://www.latimes.c...0,7372823.story[/url]
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I am trying to stay non-committal because I am not willing to go hunting for sources tonight. But I basically agree.

[4588686]

[quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1350260923' post='2493448']
Hasan, seriously, do you know how ridiculous this sounds? It is a bunch of nonsense to put so much stock into scientific junk that's being debunked these days. [/QUOTE]

What about it is ridiculous?

[url="http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/environment/global-climate-change-a-plea-for-dialogue-prudence-and-the-common-good.cfm"]http://www.usccb.org...common-good.cfm[/url]

[QUOTE]You don't know how I really feel about the poor so don't even get me started. [/QUOTE]

Well, I know how you feel about this issue that is going to savagely impact a lot of the poorest people on earth. And that says a lot.

[4588686]

[quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1350262437' post='2493462']
I agree Math is terrifying. Global Warming math is more useless than calculus however.
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Math is a wonderful thing and calculus is actually incredible important.

[4588686]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1350268014' post='2493499']
I am trying to stay non-committal because I am not willing to go hunting for sources tonight. But I basically agree.
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W00T!

[OnlySunshine]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1350268121' post='2493500']
What about it is ridiculous?

[url="http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/environment/global-climate-change-a-plea-for-dialogue-prudence-and-the-common-good.cfm"]http://www.usccb.org...common-good.cfm[/url]



Well, I know how you feel about this issue that is going to savagely impact a lot of the poorest people on earth. And that says a lot.
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Hasan, honestly, did you even read my first post? I said that I am all for "good stewardship of the earth." You are really not reading what I wrote, therefore, your arguments are moot.

[PhuturePriest]

But math is not half as scary as meth, especially when it is warmed.

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1350269418' post='2493510']
But math is not half as scary as meth, especially when it is warmed.
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I'm not asking how you know this...

[4588686]

[quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1350269238' post='2493509']

Hasan, honestly, did you even read my first post? I said that I am all for "good stewardship of the earth." You are really not reading what I wrote, therefore, your arguments are moot.
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I did. What you said is just not very substantive. What you said ammount to this: "I'm all for good stewardship of the earth, but I am completely dismissive of the single most important environmental issue of our day."


Just saying that you abstractly value environmentalism doesn't mean anything substantive.

[Groo the Wanderer]

Well the dude came from Berkeley. So did LSD. linkage anyone? hmm....

[4588686]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1350269418' post='2493510']
But math is not half as scary as meth, especially when it is warmed.
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[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Vw2yt-Vn8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Vw2yt-Vn8[/url]

[OnlySunshine]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1350269819' post='2493512']


I did. What you said is just not very substantive. What you said ammount to this: "I'm all for good stewardship of the earth, but I am completely dismissive of the single most important environmental issue of our day."


Just saying that you abstractly value environmentalism doesn't mean anything substantive.
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Are you trying to look for a fight or something? Why are you twisting my words around? I did not say that I don't care but I think you'd like to believe I don't. Show me one post I made that says I don't care and then I'll apologize.

[4588686]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350269854' post='2493513']
Well the dude came from Berkeley. So did LSD. [b]linkage[/b] anyone? hmm....
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You misspelled 'intellectual laziness.'

[southern california guy]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1350267028' post='2493494']


A narcissist is an individual who only thinks about himself. An example of narcissism would be somebody who is happy to seriously disrupt the lives of millions of people if it means that he get's to add a mango tree to his garden.
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But it is my choice... as a man of great power. I could stop global warming and save countless lives -- but I chose to warm the world so that I can grow a mangosteen tree!