Aloysius Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 thank God we have illegalized this barbaric practice. no matter who is elected we should always keep eternal vigilance to maintain the ban on this type of evil and advance towards bans on all the evils of abortion. Obama's opposition to banning this was absolutely inexcusable, and I thank God that he doesn't have the chance to fight against this ban because the life movement has so well informed the Americna people to be opposed to this issue (to the point that even NARAL is "neutral" on it). Based on his legislative history especially on life issues such as this, I don't think anyone should ever vote for that man for any type of office. I really wish we had a good candidate to oppose him with a chance of winning, but I have not seen anyone who will do anything substantial for us. Which is why it's nice to be reminded of the victories we have achieved--we have made it indefensible on a bipartisan level to be in favor of such evil barbaric acts such that even Mr. Obama has not been seen to touch that issue with a ten foot pole in the four years of his presidency. Let's be heartened that we can continue to fight for the hearts and minds of people so that they will one day be so equally disgusted with all abortion murders that they will not allow any politician to support them.
Jaime Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Voting for someone because they like "less" murder does not make them pro-life. If you are for any type of abortion, you are pro-choice. there are degrees of pro-choice but not of pro-life. You are either pro-life or not
Lil Red Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1351393660' post='2498933'] Voting for someone because they like "less" murder does not make them pro-life. If you are for any type of abortion, you are pro-choice. there are degrees of pro-choice but not of pro-life. You are either pro-life or not [/quote]
Archaeology cat Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1351393660' post='2498933'] Voting for someone because they like "less" murder does not make them pro-life. If you are for any type of abortion, you are pro-choice. there are degrees of pro-choice but not of pro-life. You are either pro-life or not [/quote]
To Jesus Through Mary Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1351393660' post='2498933'] Voting for someone because they like "less" murder does not make them pro-life. If you are for any type of abortion, you are pro-choice. there are degrees of pro-choice but not of pro-life. You are either pro-life or not [/quote]
Freedom Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1351393660' post='2498933'] Voting for someone because they like "less" murder does not make them pro-life. If you are for any type of abortion, you are pro-choice. there are degrees of pro-choice but not of pro-life. You are either pro-life or not [/quote] Nothing is 100% bullet proof except in Paradise. We're gonna have to die, go to Heaven, only then we can live in a perfect world. Just vote for Romney, that will save countless babies life. That is all we can do right now.
Nihil Obstat Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351395607' post='2498955'] Nothing is 100% bullet proof except in Paradise. We're gonna have to die, go to Heaven, only then we can live in a perfect world. Just vote for Romney, that will save countless babies life. That is all we can do right now. [/quote] Yes, checking a little box beside one sociopath instead of the other is going to save countless lives. Frankly this is an abdication of responsibility. If [i]that[/i] is what you believe to be the extent of your obligation to protect human life, then you're doing it wrong. We can, and must, do much much more than picking favourite lunatics to support our causes. We need to support actual change. Actual efforts that do not rely on corrupt murderers for their success.
Jaime Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351395607' post='2498955'] Nothing is 100% bullet proof except in Paradise. We're gonna have to die, go to Heaven, only then we can live in a perfect world. Just vote for Romney, that will save countless babies life. That is all we can do right now. [/quote] Nope. I don't believe voting for Romney will do anything to stop or even limit abortion. You want to save babies lives? Volunteer to counsel pregnant women in crisis. Drop off diapers and formula. Help out at a shelter. Pray your rosary. Work with teens on crazy topics like chastity. These are things you can do every day to end abortion. Voting once every four years doesn't make one pro-life either. It's what you do tomorrow and every tomorrow that defines your beliefs.
Nihil Obstat Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) If the extent of one's pro life support is their occasional votes for the politician who spends slightly more time lying about respecting life, then to me that is essentially the same as the Catholics who check their faith at the door of the church when they leave on Sunday. To that person, faith is something only for specific times and places, and when it is not convenient then it just fades into the background. Edited October 28, 2012 by Nihil Obstat
Jaime Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1351396064' post='2498964'] If the extent of one's pro life support is their occasional votes for the politician who spends slightly more time lying about respecting life, then to me that is essentially the same as the Catholics who check their faith at the door of the church when they leave on Sunday. To that person, faith is something only for specific times and places, and when it is not convenient then it just fades into the background. [/quote] I can't remember why we ever fought! Let's never fight again
Nihil Obstat Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1351396141' post='2498965'] I can't remember why we ever fought! Let's never fight again [/quote] [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dPMZ2uQrKUs/TSvKA5N1BKI/AAAAAAAAAC0/sbnHq-ZuaHs/s1600/untitledghh.JPG[/img] [img]http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/687753/untitledghgfhhghjgh.jpeg[/img]
kujo Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1351393660' post='2498933'] Voting for someone because they like "less" murder does not make them pro-life. If you are for any type of abortion, you are pro-choice. there are degrees of pro-choice but not of pro-life. You are either pro-life or not [/quote] See, I said the same thing earlier (being pro-life is a zero-sum equation--you either believe it's wrong, or you don't), but havok went all premenstrual on me and said that my statement reflected my ignorance on the Church's teachings.
Jaime Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='kujo' timestamp='1351400235' post='2498989'] See, I said the same thing earlier (being pro-life is a zero-sum equation--you either believe it's wrong, or you don't), but havok went all premenstrual on me and said that my statement reflected my ignorance on the Church's teachings. [/quote] Maybe it's your delivery
dUSt Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1351393660' post='2498933'] Voting for someone because they like "less" murder does not make them pro-life. If you are for any type of abortion, you are pro-choice. there are degrees of pro-choice but not of pro-life. You are either pro-life or not [/quote] I know it is not your intent to mislead people into thinking that voting for a 10% pro-choice person is the same thing as voting for a 100% pro-choice person, but that is how you are coming across. And that is in direct contradiction to what the church teaches us.
kujo Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1351407740' post='2499015'] Maybe it's your delivery [/quote] Probably.
kujo Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1351410097' post='2499022'] I know it is not your intent to mislead people into thinking that voting for a 10% pro-choice person is the same thing as voting for a 100% pro-choice person, but that is how you are coming across. And that is in direct contradiction to what the church teaches us. [/quote] Where does this 10% number come from?
MeteorShower Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) Guys, there's no need to be so harsh. You're all going on at Freedom, saying "voting doesn't make you pro-life" and "Romney isn't going to save more lives." Firstly, Freedom never said "I'm so pro-life because I think we should all vote Romeny," so stop acting like she said that. None of you know what she does with her time. Now I don't know much about American politics, and I understand that it's not really my place to give an opinion, but quite frankly I don't see why some people think Romeny and Obama are on the same level. Unfortunately, Romeny is not the heaven-sent potential president that we all want. He is pro-choice, that's a fact. For one thing, however, I doubt he's going to be lobbying to have partial birth abortion legalized. I'm pretty sure that the republicans have made it clear that they would support some restrictions on abortions. Edited October 28, 2012 by MeteorShower
MeteorShower Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 I'm sorry if that came across harsher than intended :/
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