GeorgiiMichael Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1352274090' post='2505613'] I think it is going to be Obama again in 2016. I think he is going to repeal the 22nd amendment and become a dictator by 2020. [/quote] I realize this is probably facetious, but on the off chance it isn't, there's no way that he'd be able to get enough support in order to pass a repeal amendment. Even if he had the entire Democratic Party on his side (which he almost certainly wouldn't), he wouldn't have the 3/4 of the states needed in order to pass the amendment.
missionseeker Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 They could run Rubio on his good looks and that he's a minority. I think Rubio and Rice would be an interesting pair.
PhuturePriest Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1352274732' post='2505619'] They could run Rubio on his good looks and that he's a minority. I think Rubio and Rice would be an interesting pair. [/quote] Though I love the food, I don't like Rice because she is pro-choice. To add to that, she s way too closely connected to the Bush presidency which would do the campaign no favors at all. I'm pretty sure Republicans get elected now by laying out their list of what they didn't support that George Bush did and trying to disconnect themselves from him as much as possible when they didn't disagree with him much. "Well, I supported the war, yes. But our eye colors are not the same, so we're totally different people."
missionseeker Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Perhaps. But she seems to be less pro choice and more anti-federal involvement to me. Also most of that post (though I gave no indication of it) was facetious. A person should not run because of their looks or the color of their skin. I hate when people blame race as the reason certain sections of American were strongly anti-Obama. I'm honestly afraid that putting Rubio would play to both the "good looks" idea and the racial/demographic issue. If the man is a good candidate that's fine- run him. But to run a man because he can appeal more to certain people because of the color of his skin- that's just as racist as not voting for Obama because he's black.
PhuturePriest Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1352275824' post='2505622'] Perhaps. But she seems to be less pro choice and more anti-federal involvement to me. Also most of that post (though I gave no indication of it) was facetious. A person should not run because of their looks or the color of their skin. I hate when people blame race as the reason certain sections of American were strongly anti-Obama. I'm honestly afraid that putting Rubio would play to both the "good looks" idea and the racial/demographic issue. If the man is a good candidate that's fine- run him. But to run a man because he can appeal more to certain people because of the color of his skin- that's just as racist as not voting for Obama because he's black. [/quote] As Rubio himself said last night, the Republican party needs to reach out more to minorities if it plans to stay in the game. Simply putting a pretty minority face on a platform won't work as we saw done at the convention. They need to reach out and explain why they think it is more logical to vote Republican. The good news is after four more years the economy will smell of elderberries so bad the GOP candidate will practically be thrown into the oval office, though. We just need to make sure it's a good one this time.
missionseeker Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 I'm not sure if that's good news or not. Haha. GOP, democrat. Pretty much same difference currently.
homeschoolmom Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1352271368' post='2505584'] Ronald Reagan tried to greet Germans when he was president. He mispronounced one part of the word, and instead of a greeting it translated into "I like jelly doughnuts." That's a true story. Look it up. [/quote] I think you're thinking of Kennedy, and it's not actually true.
CatherineM Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='GeorgiiMichael' timestamp='1352274490' post='2505618'] I realize this is probably facetious, but on the off chance it isn't, there's no way that he'd be able to get enough support in order to pass a repeal amendment. Even if he had the entire Democratic Party on his side (which he almost certainly wouldn't), he wouldn't have the 3/4 of the states needed in order to pass the amendment. [/quote] I wasn't being facetious. I truly believe that he will do whatever he can to run again in 2016. He doesn't believe in the Constitution and ignores it whenever he can.
BG45 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Rubio/Christie 2016. One campaign night you can have Rubio giving that amazing speech about how his father worked as a bartender to help his son make it through school, meanwhile, knowing NY is a lost cause, you can have Christie stumping in NJ saying "and I'll tell those New Yorkers to get the Hell outta Jersey!"
MIKolbe Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [color=#FF0000][font=courier new,courier,monospace][size=8]dUSt/Freedom 2016!!!![/size][/font][/color]
GeorgiiMichael Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1352300454' post='2505721'] I wasn't being facetious. I truly believe that he will do whatever he can to run again in 2016. He doesn't believe in the Constitution and ignores it whenever he can. [/quote] While I agree that he has spat all over the constitution, I do believe that he thinks he's doing the right thing. I can't honestly see him actually attempting to run again in 2016, and even if he did try, he doesn't have the support to do so. Like I said, he'd need 3/4 of the states to ratify the constitutional amendment it would take to allow him to run, and not even the Democrats would want to allow him to continue in that way. I honestly can't see anyone endorsing that constitutional amendment in congress.
Cherie Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Not Santorum! He's a big government Republican. I like the idea of Rand Paul or Rubio.NOT Christie either. Waaay too brash for the whole of America. No way.
CatherineM Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='GeorgiiMichael' timestamp='1352316482' post='2505906'] While I agree that he has spat all over the constitution, I do believe that he thinks he's doing the right thing. I can't honestly see him actually attempting to run again in 2016, and even if he did try, he doesn't have the support to do so. Like I said, he'd need 3/4 of the states to ratify the constitutional amendment it would take to allow him to run, and not even the Democrats would want to allow him to continue in that way. I honestly can't see anyone endorsing that constitutional amendment in congress. [/quote] All it takes to amend the constitution is bunches of money. I'm sure Planned Parenthood would be happy to finance it.
GeorgiiMichael Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1352319957' post='2505936'] All it takes to amend the constitution is bunches of money. I'm sure Planned Parenthood would be happy to finance it. [/quote] You would have to buy off 2/3rds of both the Senate and the House, then you'd have to buy off 3/4 of Americans once it went to the states to be ratified. You're talking nonsense, CatherineM.
Ed Normile Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Guys and gals, I hate to rain on your parade but this was the election. By the time 2016 rolls around this country will be hardly recognizable as the great nation we once were. The system for the Obamacare will be in place, most of the country will be the poor we talk about helping. The billions of dollars spent on abortion in this country that you and I and our church will have to pay for will have provided for untold numbers of new deaths, lets not even get into physician assisted suicide and death panels. Thats socialism folks, besides after Obama makes good on his promise to Putin we will not be able to strategically fend off nuclear aggression as we will not have enough to be a viable threat. Obama now has positioned the country on what is described as a fiscal cliff, where the tax breaks for middle class Americans is going to expire and billions are needed for his health care as well, and Obama has promised to raise the tax rates on the rich? This will have the effect of hurting small businesses, and taking away incentives for the wealthy to create jobs as their money will be confiscated essentially throwing us further into a recession if not an outright depression. Just the news of Obama's re-election has caused the stock market to take the worse freefall in many years. Welcome to the bread lines my friends. ed
dominicansoul Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='GeorgiiMichael' timestamp='1352320225' post='2505940'] You're talking nonsense, CatherineM. [/quote] in the years i have frequented phatmass, I've NEVER seen this sentence....
Ed Normile Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='CherieMadame' timestamp='1352318036' post='2505922'] Not Santorum! He's a big government Republican. I like the idea of Rand Paul or Rubio. NOT Christie either. Waaay too brash for the whole of America. No way. [/quote] Cheri ?? I guess you have been reading some liberal blog or media to come up with that one. Rick Santorum has called throughout his career for reducing government by passing a balanced budget law and most importantly repealing Obamacare. Basically the same platform that Romney and Cain both promised. I know there are lots of misinformation sites out there, but it's simply not true. I seen another thread where someone posted how Romney was " Big Government " its a shame when people pass on info that they have no idea about as it causes others who do not research it to fall for the lie. ed
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Norseman82 Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1352271368' post='2505584'] Ronald Reagan tried to greet Germans when he was president. He mispronounced one part of the word, and instead of a greeting it translated into "I like jelly doughnuts." That's a true story. Look it up. [/quote] Of course, there was also Carter's famous Polish mistranslation (which was amazing, since he obviously had enough Polish aptitude to review the resume of and interview and hire as his national security advisor someone with the name [b]Zbigniew Brzezinski[/b]).
Norseman82 Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 [quote name='missionseeker' timestamp='1352274732' post='2505619'] They could run Rubio on his good looks and that he's a minority. I think Rubio and Rice would be an interesting pair. [/quote] How about Susanna Martinez, the governor of New Mexico? [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wCL2Hneb3w"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wCL2Hneb3w[/url] (warning: slight profanity (use of the "d" word))
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