dUSt Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 "Grace builds on nature". This is a common phrase my priest uses in almost every one of his sermons. Let's talk about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 TL;DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) God works with what is already present. I'm gentle and a bit of a dreamer. This is part of my God-given makeup, though I might with utter ferocity defend what I believe to be true, it probably won't ever, no matter how much of the "boldness of the Holy Ghost" I have been given, an especially aggressive Alpha-Male kind of way. It will be in my gentle, wordy, nerdy way--and very high on the subjective rather than ontological/objective facts of the matter. Edited February 28, 2013 by Evangetholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinaSt.Cecilia2772 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 In my interpretation I feel like that can be seen in various ways. But the most prominent way to me is being in Nature itself. Being in God's creation, appreciating and being humbled by the beauty of it is what brings me peace and grace. It's a way God recharges my faith batteries for me, by showing me his beauty and how to find that in all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Amppax Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) In my interpretation I feel like that can be seen in various ways. But the most prominent way to me is being in Nature itself. Being in God's creation, appreciating and being humbled by the beauty of it is what brings me peace and grace. It's a way God recharges my faith batteries for me, by showing me his beauty and how to find that in all things. That really is a lovely sentiment, but that's not what the phrase refers to, and I don't mean that as a criticism. "Grace builds on nature" means that God's grace, given to us to sanctify us and draw us more and more into towards the Triune God, does not destroy our own human nature; rather, it takes our created human nature and raises it, allowing us to partake in the divine nature. At least, that's my understanding. I'm sort of parroting what I've heard though, I'll try and come back later and explain better. If one of the other theologian types around here could correct anything inaccurate I've said, I'd be much obliged. The Wikipedia article on Divinization has some relevant material from Aquinas and other saints. Specifically, look at the Roman Catholic section. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinization_(Christian) Edited February 28, 2013 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinaSt.Cecilia2772 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 That really is a lovely sentiment, but that's not what the phrase refers to, and I don't mean that as a criticism. "Grace builds on nature" means that God's grace, given to us to sanctify us and draw us more and more into towards the Triune God, does not destroy our own human nature; rather, it takes our created human nature and raises it, allowing us to partake in the divine nature. At least, that's my understanding. I'm sort of parroting what I've heard though, I'll try and come back later and explain better. If one of the other theologian types around here could correct anything inaccurate I've said, I'd be much obliged. The Wikipedia article on Divinization has some relevant material from Aquinas and other saints. Specifically, look at the Roman Catholic section. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinization_(Christian) See I knew there would be other references and interpretations. Thank you for bringing that new understanding to my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 I've read that "grace builds on nature" is another way of saying that God's grace transforms our flawed nature into something beautiful instead of just "covering up" our flawed nature--which is a common Protestant belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 That's totes what I said. Where my props at?? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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