Evangetholic Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'm not sure what you mean. I literally change the pic every couple of days. But you mean like it's moving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 absolutely not! women are not permitted to run the Church. it is not Scriptural! why are women permitted to be cardinals? this is awful! Wrong. Can. 351 §1. The Roman Pontiff freely selects men to be promoted as cardinals, who have been ordained at least into the order of the presbyterate and are especially outstanding in doctrine, morals, piety, and prudence in action; those who are not yet bishops must receive episcopal consecration. Okay, I'm pretty sure she's just kidding. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Unordained men have been cardinals before. I can't see why a woman couldn't be elevated. It's not a priestly office, per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kateri89 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'm not sure what you mean. I literally change the pic every couple of days. But you mean like it's moving? No I just mean that it changes frequently. Just curious why you switch the picture every couple days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 No I just mean that it changes frequently. Just curious why you switch the picture every couple days. It amuses me to do so. Unordained men have been cardinals before. I can't see why a woman couldn't be elevated. It's not a priestly office, per se. I'm quite wrong. The historica lay Cardinals had been ordained into minor orders. So no female cardinals, but Abbesses who function as Bishops in an administrative and (non-sacramental) pastoral role have existed throughout most of Church history and could be brought back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Okay, I'm pretty sure she's just kidding. Sheesh. However, its only a matter of discipline. The Church cannot ordain women as priests, but it could elevate them to Cardinals because there is nothing intrinsic to the position that requires one be ordained other than canon law required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 wouldn't it be interesting if the college of cardinals was required by canon law to be all-female. The women cardinals must appoint a man pope, and the pope must appoint women who will choose his successor. interesting. I feel a short story coming on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 women don't have souls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 women don't have souls OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) Dolan and Benedict Groeschel are on my side about female cardinals. It's theoretically possible because there's no holy orders actually involved in being a cardinal. http://fr.gloria.tv/?media=272602 Skip ahead to about 3:30 for the conversation about female cardinals. Also includes the story about how JPII supposedly asked Mother Theresa to be a cardinal but she refused. However, its only a matter of discipline. The Church cannot ordain women as priests, but it could elevate them to Cardinals because there is nothing intrinsic to the position that requires one be ordained other than canon law required. ^ This. Edited March 5, 2013 by Basilisa Marie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappo Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 theoretically the normal posture for receiving communion could be changed to reception while doing a handstand, but that doesn't mean a whole lot. Just saying... until it actually happens we could play what ifs about all sorts of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinaSt.Cecilia2772 Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Dolan and Benedict Groeschel are on my side about female cardinals. It's theoretically possible because there's no holy orders actually involved in being a cardinal. http://fr.gloria.tv/?media=272602 Skip ahead to about 3:30 for the conversation about female cardinals. Also includes the story about how JPII supposedly asked Mother Theresa to be a cardinal but she refused. I'm not going to lie, even though women can't be ordained priests, I think it would be really cool if women were elevated to be cardinals. It would definitely be a big change, but sometimes change is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Like Slappo alluded to, there is a difference between what is theoretically possible, and what would be for the good of the Church. At the very least, the weight of custom and discipline mean that such a change could not be considered lightly. It also seems that the development of the Church over the centuries has tied the cardinalate more and more closely to the priesthood and the episcopacy. Whether or not it is tied necessarily to the priesthood and episcopacy is one thing, and if Cardinal Dolan said what he said then I will not disagree with him. But it is another matter whether that association is something of value that should be maintained. I would perceive female cardinals as a troubling change. More than that I will not say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappo Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 to add: I do know that the theoretical example I gave was way off the rocker. On a more serious note: I'm very highly skeptical of changing the traditions of the Church (small t) without due reason. The coolness of a female cardinal doesn't seem like due reason to me. To an extent I'm bothered by the abdication of the papacy as it is not within the traditions of the Church for a pope to serve for less than his entire life. The red shoes symbolize giving up ones entire life down to his blood being spilt in service to the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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