Debate This: Blue

[Aloysius]

lol, have you seen my signature?

[littleflower+JMJ]

hahaha what? No more Al's handy artwork?

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='May 27 2004, 02:21 PM'] lol, have you seen my signature? [/quote]
LOL did he tell you that?

[Aloysius]

jason: he didn't just tell me, he edited my sig. i just noticed when i posted here
flowery: nah, i just put the numbers 123456789 over and over again, it made the boards fat when they should've been phat. i didn't mean to make em fat, that was just the double effect. although i prolly couldnt do much art with simply 100 charecters. (well, remember my member title? maybe i could) anyway, back to the color debate, i'll repeat myself:

[quote]WHITE isn't just ONE color, it's ALL the colors. That's like sayin the United States of America is better than George Washington. Duh, America is better than George Washington, but America is better BECAUSE of George Washington.

Therefore, of course white is better than blue, but white is better BECAUSE of blue. I like blue pigments, objects which reflect the color blue back to me. i like white pigments as well, for they also reflect the color blue back to me. but i'd rather see a picture of George Washington than a map of America, because America would also include the liberals runnin wild all over the place. Therefore i'd rather see blue than white becuase white has like red and green runnin wild all over it as well!
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Edited May 27, 2004 by Aloysius

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='May 27 2004, 02:20 PM'] WHITE isn't just ONE color, it's ALL the colors.
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i disagree. although white is the culmination of all the colors, it is itself a color as well. for one, white is a new entity, not the shade of a pre-existing color. the fact that i can make something "white" as opposed to "red" or "blue" or any other pre-existing color--and the fact that it is unlike any other color--makes white a color in and of itself. secondly, the fact that it is a composite of other colors does not discredit it as a color. that would be like rejecting green as a color b/c it is the composite of yellow and blue, or rejecting purple b/c it is the composite of blue and red.

[quote]That's like sayin the United States of America is better than George Washington.  Duh, America is better than George Washington, but America is better BECAUSE of George Washington.[/quote]
the debate here is first and formost which color is better, and only secondarily "why" it is better. so, you make my case here

[quote]but i'd rather see a picture of George Washington than a map of America, because America would also include the liberals runnin wild all over the place. [/quote]
i don't think this is an accurate analogy. if George Washington represents one of the colors of which white is a composite, then a photo album of all the presidents would represent white, not a map of America.

w/ the correct analogy now in place, i say a photo album is more appealing b/c it gives the most honor to the Presidency of the United States. it illustrates every facet of the presidency and in fact what it means to be President throughout the ages. likewise, white is more appealing b/c it gives the most honor to this thing called "Color." white IS "Color"........in every since and facet of the word.

....which makes it great.

thanks for the engaging debate, and yes, there is something wrong w/ me for being able to turn this into an actual debate, hehe.

pax christi,
phatcatholic

[Aloysius]

WHITE is to COLOR as NATION is to CITIZEN. White is not comparable, which completely destroys the rest of your argument. MANY CITIZENs make up a NATION just like MANY COLORS make up WHITE. The Analogy stands

[theculturewarrior]

This is too complex. Especially when you think about white light as opposed to the white "color" *


*terminology debated.

[Aloysius]

COLOR is LIGHT FREQUENCY.

You are thinking PIGMENT here, my friend. St. Paul in his letter to the Americans clearly uses the word PIGMENT different than the word COLOR (compare Americans 3:56 with Americans 4:12-14)

We are clearly called by Jesus Himself to beware of false objects in blue clothing, and Paul warns us to only stay steadfast to the blue which we have received from the Apostles. Blue pigments are like wolves in sheeps clothing, they appear blue but on the inside they have absorbed every color except blue. Black pigments are wishy washy new age types that no longer believe absolute truth or absolute color, to them every color is just someone's opinion. They accept everyone's color as just a personal opinion when in fact blue is the only true color that should be accepted. White pigments reject all color, these are clearly atheists and acolorists.

[Dusty Fro]

I like [color=purple]Red [/color]and [color=red]Purple[/color]

[Quietfire]

I still prefer Pink.


and my man likes me in pink too. So I win...
twice.

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='May 27 2004, 05:21 PM'] WHITE is to COLOR as NATION is to CITIZEN. White is not comparable, which completely destroys the rest of your argument. [/quote]
but it is the very reason that there is no comparison that makes white so much better then all the rest. no other color compares to white. again, u make my argument for me

[quote] MANY CITIZENs make up a NATION just like MANY COLORS make up WHITE.  The Analogy stands [/quote]
which analogy? your original one, which i revealed was faulty, or the new analogy you have created?

you seem to say here that white is not a color in and of itself. you will have to refute the arguments i gave for white being a color in order to continue to make this claim.

wow, this is actually gettin heated! hehe, nuthin but love bro,
phatcatholic

[Aloysius]

lol i can't believe we're doing this but you're clearly wrong

[quote]i disagree. although white is the culmination of all the colors, it is itself a color as well. [/quote]

i disagree on the grounds that that is just like saying a the nation is a citizen as well.

[quote]for one, white is a new entity, not the shade of a pre-existing color. the fact that i can make something "white" as opposed to "red" or "blue" or any other pre-existing color--and the fact that it is unlike any other color--makes white a color in and of itself. [/quote]

you CANNOT make something white as opposed to red or blue
you can make something that reflects all colors. but the thing you make will reflect a mix of red, green, and blue. It is a mix, not it's own thing.

[quote]secondly, the fact that it is a composite of other colors does not discredit it as a color. that would be like rejecting green as a color b/c it is the composite of yellow and blue, or rejecting purple b/c it is the composite of blue and red.[/quote]

you are #1 clearly thinking of PIGMENTS, this thread is about COLOR. #2, nuh uh Light is composed of three primary colors. These three combined compose LIGHT itself. Colors are aspects of light. Colors are light, but light is not a color.

Cyan is the combination of Green and Blue.
Yellow is the combination of Green and Red.
Magenta is the combination of Red and Blue.

Each of these so long as they are not the full spectrum of light are different colors within the spectrum of light. The entire spectrum cannot be considered a color.

I win White is ineligable because White is Light and a color must be a Part of Light. :nanny:

[MC Just]

[FONT=Arial][SIZE=14][COLOR=red]RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!