Any Poor Clares With The Traditional Latin Mass?

[MarysLittleFlower]

Does anyone know if there's a community of Poor Clares that has the Tridentine Latin Mass? I'm not sure how to find out... thanks! :)

[nikita92]

"As I have posted in the past of a Traditional Mass at the Poor Clares Convent in Minooka, IL, I recently sent a message to the Mother Superior to inquiry if these Masses were still being regularly offered. I was pleased to see that not only is the Traditional Mass offered there once a month but also that a Divine Liturgy is also said there."
Dear Matthew
Yes there is a Latin Mass on the third Saturday of each month that is open to the public. Also a Divine Liturgy on the second Saturday usually, but I an not sure of this month as Father Ron Hilt is going to Fatima. He did hope to find another priest for us.

In Jesus and Mary,
The Poor Clares
Copied as was posted on Jan 2012

[Guest Allie]

never mind. :hehe2:    I misunderstood the  question.  Jet lag.

Edited April 4, 2013 by Allie

[Pax_et bonum]

The Poor Sisters of St. Clare have the NO in Latin, priest facing the altar, receive the Eucharist kneeling behind the grille (the congregation receives at the altar rail), postulants wear chapel veils, but they pray the LotH in English.

[MarysLittleFlower]

thanks for the replies! :)

 

if anyone knows more orders... that would be great :)

 

I really like the Poor Clares.. I've been looking at some of their websites today.

 

How are the Colettines different from other Poor Clares?

Edited April 4, 2013 by MarysLittleFlower

[nikita92]

I find it interesting that the the PC's in Minooka are right across the street from the main Kellogg's plant ! It is ginormous!!

[Pax_et bonum]

The Colettines are a reform of the Poor Clares--Poor Clare Colettines--other reforms include the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration (Mother Angelica), Capuchin Poor Clares, and rather recently the Poor Clares of the Immaculate. Not too long after St. Clare's death, Pope Urban IV gave permission for the Poor Clares to not have such a radical poverty that St. Clare begged Pope Innocent IV to grant her and her sisters. The Urbanist Poor Clares, or Order of St. Clare (OSC), were allowed to own property and be more financially stable. By the time St. Colette came around in the 15th century, the Poor Clares had grown rather lax, and she was called to reform the Poor Clares back to more of the original rule. St. Colette went back to St. Clare's Rule that was approved by the pope just 2 days before her death, and in addition to following the Rule, they also follow Colettine Constitutions.

 

The Poor Clares in Minooka, IL, for example, are Colettines, as are the ones Allie's in contact with in Barhamsville, VA, and the ones our pmer Sr. Mary Agnes (Piccoli Fiori JMJ) entered in Rockford, IL. The Poor Sisters of St. Clare aren't Colettines; they follow the same Rule as the PCCs but don't have the Constitutions. They are similar to the Colettines, but they are a little more strict in their poverty.

[OnlySunshine]

Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration (Desert Nuns) in Tonopah, AZ have the Extraordinary Mass a few times a month.

 

Poor Clare Collettines of Minooka, IL -- article about Latin Mass at Monastery

[Chiara Francesco]

The Colettines are a reform of the Poor Clares--Poor Clare Colettines--other reforms include the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration (Mother Angelica), Capuchin Poor Clares, and rather recently the Poor Clares of the Immaculate. Not too long after St. Clare's death, Pope Urban IV gave permission for the Poor Clares to not have such a radical poverty that St. Clare begged Pope Innocent IV to grant her and her sisters. The Urbanist Poor Clares, or Order of St. Clare (OSC), were allowed to own property and be more financially stable. By the time St. Colette came around in the 15th century, the Poor Clares had grown rather lax, and she was called to reform the Poor Clares back to more of the original rule. St. Colette went back to St. Clare's Rule that was approved by the pope just 2 days before her death, and in addition to following the Rule, they also follow Colettine Constitutions.

 

The Poor Clares in Minooka, IL, for example, are Colettines, as are the ones Allie's in contact with in Barhamsville, VA, and the ones our pmer Sr. Mary Agnes (Piccoli Fiori JMJ) entered in Rockford, IL. The Poor Sisters of St. Clare aren't Colettines; they follow the same Rule as the PCCs but don't have the Constitutions. They are similar to the Colettines, but they are a little more strict in their poverty.

 

The PCCs in Minooka are founded from the Rockford PCCs.  The Abbess in Minooka, Mother Mary Dorothy, was the Abbess in Rockford in the past before they made a foundation in Minooka.

 

Minooka's websites:

 

NEW website: http://poorclaresjoliet.org/

 

Old website:  http://174.120.138.8/~minooka/

 

The PCCs in Minooka have the TLM 1-2 or more times a month and the other masses have either a lot or some Latin in them.  Their masses are the BEST I have ever attended out of several other PCCs, Carmels and Dominican monasteries I have visited!

 

The priests are mostly Franciscan friars (in their Franciscan robes) and sometimes other priests.  All their priests are very reverent and give fantastic sermons at every mass - not just Sundays - and are 8-10 mins or more.  I have, sad to say, been to a few monasteries where the nuns are great and traditional but the priests that come to say the mass are not or they do quick in-and-out masses with either NO sermons or so short it's a joke.  Very sad.  NOT so at the PCCs of Minooka!

 

 

Priest saying a TLM at the PCCs in Minooka.  Above picture and more at this article:  http://acatholiclife.blogspot.com/2009/06/saturday-of-blessed-virgin-mary.html

 

The opening in the wall facing the priest is the niche where the sisters put the monstrance for Adoration and take it down for mass and non-Adoration hours.   This opening looks into their choir where they have the Divine Office, mental prayer, adoration, vocal prayers, etc.  Their mass "choir" is to the priests right of this opening and the priest. 

 

When I visited them for a week, I thought I was in heaven with the masses, Latin and the sisters chanting and singing!  So wonderful to see them get down on the floor in this way:

 

 

out of their pews and onto the floor for a while each during the consecration of the Body and Blood part of the mass.

 

Of course, their whole life was like heaven!  The way they chanted the Divine Office, Adoration, other prayers (vocal), with me at the grille, their fantastic extern, etc.!

 

I recommend any and all who feel they do or might have a vocation to the PCCs to go to them!  Anyone wants more on them, my visit with them, etc. just write me.

[Sr Mary Catharine OP]

"I have, sad to say, been to a few monasteries where the nuns are great and traditional but the priests that come to say the mass are not or they do quick in-and-out masses with either NO sermons or so short it's a joke.  Very sad.  NOT so at the PCCs of Minooka!"

 

Sadly many dioceses feel that the best place to put a priest that they are having difficulty placing is at a cloistered monastery. The different Orders and dioceses feel they are "wasting" their men if they send good, holy and fervent priests to monasteries which is totally opposite of what it says in Verbi Sponsa. St. Dominic did not feel that way at all and so reverenced the contemplative life that he always sent his best men to the monasteries.

 

It is a true suffering for a cloister because we can't just go out and find another mass, etc.

 

Right now, we are very blessed to have a wonderful friar who is reverent, LOVES the liturgy and preaches very well. We are so grateful that the Provincial is allowing him to be our chaplain. Plus, he loves it here!

 

BTW, that is a beautiful chasuble in the photo!

[Maggyie]

The Poor Clare Colettines have a wonderful monastery here in Cleveland, Ohio. They were the first permanent Poor Clares in the United States: link

[Chiara Francesco]

They also get great priests, Franciscan and others, for mass and retreats and conferences.  They get Fr. Benet Fonck, great Franciscan book writer, and Fr. Antoine Thomas (EWTN and big on Adoration for kids, forget his order) who came last year sometime for a retreat.  And then others who don't have well-known names but do an equally great job!

[MarysLittleFlower]

Wonderful! :) thank you all for sharing..

[MarysLittleFlower]

 

 

The Poor Clare Colettines have a wonderful monastery here in Cleveland, Ohio. They were the first permanent Poor Clares in the United States: link

 

oh yes I looked at their website before and really liked them! :)

The PCCs in Minooka are founded from the Rockford PCCs.  The Abbess in Minooka, Mother Mary Dorothy, was the Abbess in Rockford in the past before they made a foundation in Minooka.

 

Minooka's websites:

 

NEW website: http://poorclaresjoliet.org/

 

Old website:  http://174.120.138.8/~minooka/

 

The PCCs in Minooka have the Traditional Latin Mass 1-2 or more times a month and the other masses have either a lot or some Latin in them.  Their masses are the BEST I have ever attended out of several other PCCs, Carmels and Dominican monasteries I have visited!

 

The priests are mostly Franciscan friars (in their Franciscan robes) and sometimes other priests.  All their priests are very reverent and give fantastic sermons at every mass - not just Sundays - and are 8-10 mins or more.  I have, sad to say, been to a few monasteries where the nuns are great and traditional but the priests that come to say the mass are not or they do quick in-and-out masses with either NO sermons or so short it's a joke.  Very sad.  NOT so at the PCCs of Minooka!

 

 

Priest saying a Traditional Latin Mass at the PCCs in Minooka.  Above picture and more at this article:  http://acatholiclife.blogspot.com/2009/06/saturday-of-blessed-virgin-mary.html

 

The opening in the wall facing the priest is the niche where the sisters put the monstrance for Adoration and take it down for mass and non-Adoration hours.   This opening looks into their choir where they have the Divine Office, mental prayer, adoration, vocal prayers, etc.  Their mass "choir" is to the priests right of this opening and the priest. 

 

When I visited them for a week, I thought I was in heaven with the masses, Latin and the sisters chanting and singing!  So wonderful to see them get down on the floor in this way:

 

 

out of their pews and onto the floor for a while each during the consecration of the Body and Blood part of the mass.

 

Of course, their whole life was like heaven!  The way they chanted the Divine Office, Adoration, other prayers (vocal), with me at the grille, their fantastic extern, etc.!

 

I recommend any and all who feel they do or might have a vocation to the PCCs to go to them!  Anyone wants more on them, my visit with them, etc. just write me.

 

they sound so great! :) I hope to learn more about them :D

 

sorry for all the underlining.. I'm not sure how that happened :)

[nikita92]

I just can't get over that they are across the road from Kellogg! Lol

[MarysLittleFlower]

Hehe :D

[Guest Allie]

Thought you might find this interesting.  http://www.wf-f.org/03-2-PoorClares.html   Sr. Miriam has persevered and is a solemnly professed nun at Bethlehem Monastery.  I am not sharing this article with my parents.  Way too soon in the process.

 

 

[FFI Griswold]

Ave Maria!

 

AFAIK, the Poor Clares of the Immaculate celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass, as well as most of the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate, who by the way, after living the contemplative-active life for a period of time, can request permission to enter the contemplative branch of the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate.

 

Here's a video on the Poor Clares of the Immaculate http://airmaria.com/...b=1&ttl=FI News

 

"The Poor Clares of the Immaculate were officially erected by a decree of the Holy See on May 8, 2002. They now have three monasteries, with a total of about 60 nuns. Together with the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate, they are part of a single religious family, united by the same founders, the same Marian-Franciscan spirituality and the same Vow of Total Consecration to Our Lady. Our common goal is to bring a new springtime of grace and holiness to the Church by returning to the origins of the Seraphic Order, founded at the little Church of St. Mary of the Angels, which St. Francis lovingly rebuilt with his own hands. 

The Poor Clares of the Immaculate live according to the original Rule of our Holy Mother Clare, with no mitigations, and the Traccia Mariana, a document drawn up by our founder, Fr. Stefano M. Manelli, which gives clear indications on how to faithfully live out the charism of Sts. Francis and Clare in the modern world, following the example and teachings of St. Maximilian M. Kolbe. They wear a grey-blue habit (like the friars and sisters), with a sky-blue veil and the Miraculous Medal worn over the breast. 

The three existing monasteries are located in Italy, but young women from other parts of the world (including the U.S.A.) have begun to enter the Order as well, which gives us hope that in a few years' time they will begin to found monasteries in other countries, and on other continents."

 

For info on both branches you can try contacting our sisters at www.franciscansoftheimmaculate.com

 

Ave Maria!

 

"What a great laudable exchange: to leave the things of time for those of eternity, to choose the things of heaven for the goods of earth, to receive the hundred-fold in place of one, and to possess a blessed and eternal life." -St. Clare of Assisi

 

In the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary,

 

fra John Paul

[MarysLittleFlower]

Thank you so much!

 

I see that their founder is Fr Stefano Manelli, which is so interesting cause i'm just reading a book about him! And I think St Padre Pio was his spiritual father? This is so wonderful :) thank you for sharing!

[MarysLittleFlower]

Thought you might find this interesting.  http://www.wf-f.org/03-2-PoorClares.html   Sr. Miriam has persevered and is a solemnly professed nun at Bethlehem Monastery.  I am not sharing this article with my parents.  Way too soon in the process.

great article! :) thanks for sharing this! :)