Socrates Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 "The framers of the Constitution were a buncha Masonic slave-owning Dead White Males who wore powdered wigs; therefore we should disregard constitutional restraints on federal government power."
PhuturePriest Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 In order to be a Christian in any meaningful, orthodox sense, one must at the very least believe in the actual, literal resurrection of Christ from the dead (as proclaimed in the Nicene Creed). There are many miraculous events in the Bible that orthodox Christians take literally. (But I'm probably that type of Christian who's not worth arguing with.) We follow Christ as the Only Son of God because we believe His life was remarkable and miraculous and gave testimony to this fact, not because we think him just another nice guy. Either G.K. Chesterton or C.S. Lewis (I forget) said something along the lines of: The atheist who decries the Christian Faith as the most outrageous, unbelievable fairy-tale ever told understands what Christianity is about far better than the person who tries to reduce the Christian message to boring platitudes. (If someone can provide me with the actual quote and author, it would be appreciated.) I never said things in the Bible didn't actually happen. The Resurrection in particular is certainly not figurative language. To say so would likely be heretical, and I like my theology solid, not mushy. That being said, not everything in the Bible is literal. That's not how people wrote back then. Do I believe that God could have made everything, even the most physically impossible things in the Bible, actually happen? Heck yes I do. But that doesn't mean He did.
Socrates Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 "If we outlaw or put restraints on abortion, or if the state doesn't give legal recognition to homosexual 'marriage,' then it's a short step to cops patrolling your bedroom and Sharia Law."
Socrates Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Conservatives are RACIST!! Therefore, we must oppose any conservative policy or principles [having nothing whatever to do with race].
Socrates Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 "If your oppose government "gun control" laws, you don't care about children dying."
4588686 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Conservatives are RACIST!! Therefore, we must oppose any conservative policy or principles [having nothing whatever to do with race]. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X_8E3ENrKrQ
Socrates Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 I never said things in the Bible didn't actually happen. The Resurrection in particular is certainly not figurative language. To say so would likely be heretical, and I like my theology solid, not mushy. That being said, not everything in the Bible is literal. That's not how people wrote back then. Do I believe that God could have made everything, even the most physically impossible things in the Bible, actually happen? Heck yes I do. But that doesn't mean He did. My response was actually more to CatholicsAreKewl, and was more of a clarification than an argument. I was pretty sure you didn't deny the literal Resurrection of Christ, but perhaps talking about belief in raising people from the dead wasn't the best example to use, as it's actually something Christians are required to believe in.
CatholicsAreKewl Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) In order to be a Christian in any meaningful, orthodox sense, one must at the very least believe in the actual, literal resurrection of Christ from the dead (as proclaimed in the Nicene Creed). There are many miraculous events in the Bible that orthodox Christians take literally. I have a tendency to make confusing statements. Let me clarify. I was referring to a literal interpretation without an understanding of context. Someone would have to be a nut to take two differing accounts of the creation story literally. I love nuts, so this isn't too big of a problem. Edited May 21, 2013 by CatholicsAreKewl
havok579257 Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 That if yoir for any form of government imposed law no matter how sma that you are for state sanctioned murder and are a statist who opposes human freedom.
Gabriela Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 "Why work to overturn Roe v. Wade? Even if abortion is illegal, abortions will still take place." False dichotomy. This one is easy to rebut: "Oh. Then I guess we should just kill all women. Problem solved!"
Gabriela Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 That if yoir for any form of government imposed law no matter how sma that you are for state sanctioned murder and are a statist who opposes human freedom. Wait. This is true.
Dr. Bombay Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I'm spiritual, not religious. Not really an argument, more of an inanity.
Anastasia13 Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) If you don't believe in a literal 7 day creation after reading Genesis, then you will eventually stop believing Jesus literally was the incarnate son of God who died and was resurrected. Edited June 14, 2013 by Light and Truth
Dr. Bombay Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 If you don't believe in a literal 7 day creation after reading Genesis, then you will eventually stop believing Jesus literally was the incarnate son of God who died and was resurrected. The world was created in 6 days. God rested on the 7th. Just sayin.
Ice_nine Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 maybe if God didn't take a vacation day Eve wouldn't have listened to the serpent and we wouldn't be in this mess.
BG45 Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 "Because the Bible tells us not to suffer the witch to live, we should burn this copy of Harry Potter instead of sell it in the church rummage sale; we'd be promoting witchcraft!" - a woman sorting things for the church rummage sale when I was a Baptist.
Nihil Obstat Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 "Because the Bible tells us not to suffer the witch to live, we should burn this copy of Harry Potter instead of sell it in the church rummage sale; we'd be promoting witchcraft!" - a woman sorting things for the church rummage sale when I was a Baptist. To be fair, there are books around that I would rather destroy than sell. :P Harry Potter is certainly not among them though.
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