The Historian Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Tradional/modernHabit/non-habitMonastic-contemplative/apostolic activityCommunity living/off-siteMind-body health issues allowed/not allowedHigher education requirement/not a factorSpiritualityMeans of supporting the communityFamily members visits,letter writing,use of technologyPermit pets/no pets (not referring to animals used for food or products-cheese etc)Why would your community attract women and or men (of all ages)What makes it stand outLocated in the city/outskirts Name: Brothers of WisdomTraditional/modern: Traditional. Ideally pre-Pian Psalter, post-Pian calendar reforms, pre-55 Holy Week.Habit/non-habit: Habit. Simple black cassock, with preaching bands. The cassock may have two pockets. One pocket is to contain a crucifix and rosary, the other is to contain a book of Gospels and psalms. The men are permitted to bring bags with them for storing breviaries, liturgical items, pamphlets, catechism books, etc.Monastic/contemplative-apostolic activity: Apostolic activity founded on a strong personal contemplative experience. The purpose of the Brothers of Wisdom will be two-fold. As consecrated slaves of Mary they will fulfil all works of spiritual and corporal mercies as possible, to win Our Lady many graces to dispense to whomever she will. There will be a particular emphasis on providing catechesis. They will roam around, from town to town, preaching on the streets, in the churches, and educating children and adults in the truths of the faith.Community living/off-site: Living off-site in pairs of two, with only one mother house which also serves as a "seminary" and retirement home.Mind/body health issues allowed/not allowed: Be of sound constitution, both of mind and body.Higher education requirement/not a factor: High school graduate minimum, no option of progressing in further study until retirement from active apostolate.Spirituality: French School/Montfortian.Means of supporting the community: Purely by alms and charity for those "in the field". The men will only be allowed to possess a rosary, crucifix, gospels/psalms, breviary, and apostolate materials. At 8pm every day they give everything else to the poor, and leave it by the roadside if necessary. God will provide. Donations to help run the mother house/"seminary"/retirement home.Family visits, letters and technology: No family visits whilst out "in the field". Permitted 1 week visit with family per year. Letters only whilst resident in the mother house. Technology reserved for mother house to facilitate contact with Rome, donors, etc., and retired students. The brothers on the missions will have no technology.Pets/no pets: No pets, unable to provide for their health and wellbeing.Why would your community attract others: Men must be between 16-25 years of age when initially discerning with the community. God will attract them.What makes it stand out: Complete dependence on Divine Providence.Located in the city/outskirts: For the wanndering preachers, wherever they are needed. Mother house in a beautiful part of nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Paul Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I would be the first to join but I could not live with only one other community member.Will they wear the roman collar with the cassock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Paul Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Phuture Priest , What about the LOTH? Edited April 16, 2015 by John Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Paul Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The nuns would not wear a cape they already have a cap,wimple,and collar., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Historian Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I would be the first to join but I could not live with only one other community member.Will they wear the roman collar with the cassock? It's to ideally live up to the Gospel commission of going around in twos. It would be extremely challenging, of course. If you're out for months at a time with only one other individual, what do you do if said individual is a bit of a... pain in the rear end? It's designed to provide maximum merit for Our Lady to distribute to souls in need!No Roman collars, the preaching bands suffice for that. Preaching bands > Roman collars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Phuture Priest , What about the LOTH? The Liturgy of the Hours are mandatory, so I didn't think it was worth mentioning it. If you look, it says "special devotions", meaning optional prayer devotions such as the Rosary and Chaplet of Divine Mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Paul Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Oh,sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto Guimaraes Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 7/3/2013 at 8:32 PM, OnlySunshine said: white knee socks; black oxford shoes or sandals Peace and Good! No socks. Only during a rigorous winter or health troubles. Shoes too.. Sandals yes! Better bare feet. Blessings! Br. Alberto Guimaraes OFS Braga ─ Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gloriana35 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 It is unthinkable that I ever would have founded a religious community - but I'm wondering if this thread is totally serious or a bit of 'make believe.' Some of the details some have included puzzle me. The schedules some of you envision could be overwhelming! And who is thinking about whether someone wears socks? Why are some against contact with others? With the rich traditions left by many a founder, I would see there being plenty already there to embrace - and the essence of the commitment being the proper focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feankie Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 This thread is about 7 years old. I can't remember why it was started in the first place...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gloriana35 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 This vaguely reminds me of little girls playing with bride and groom paper dolls, talking about every detail of their planned wedding day... which may be 20 years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto Guimaraes Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 7/6/2013 at 4:27 AM, TheresaThoma said: When I was about 12, I had a fantasy about living as a religious hermit in a cave near the ocean. PEACE AND GOOD! When I was 13, I lived in front of Atlantic Ocean, and I raised my religious vocation praying at a ground floor of my house which was not finished concerning building works, and the exterior walls was made of granite stone, without any coating! A cave near the ocean, so! Blessings! Br. Alberto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi999 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago ok I am game: Tagline: “there is no past in Bethany, only the present and future hope” Bl Lataste “We are consecrated laymen, rooted in the charism of Bethany, building lives of prayer, brotherhood, and mercy—open to all, especially those whom the world has cast aside.” the project or institute of consecrated life would allow: Young men searching for meaning or healing Former prisoners or those working in prison ministry Lay Dominicans or spiritual seekers Volunteers in social justice, addiction recovery, and mental health Catholic men disillusioned with traditional structures but open to renewal catholic men who are married (and their spouse) to be full members there is no discrimination on color, sex, sexual orientation etc admittance on a case by case basis. I am based in Italy and I have already created a facebook page: brothers of bethany, Instagram brothers_of_bethany we plan to have a website as well. should you have any ideas, wish to join etc..shoot me an email at profesorluigi at gmail also available to chat via whatsapp or video conference full info? sureee ENGLISH We are consecrated laymen inspired by the charism of the Dominican Sisters of Bethany, founded on the vision of Blessed Jean-Joseph Lataste. Rooted in Dominican spirituality and mercy, we form a community open to all—especially the forgotten, the formerly incarcerated, and those living on the margins. Like the first brothers of the early Church, we do not live in a single monastery but in our own homes and cities, united in prayer, shared mission, and vowed life. We gather regularly, support one another in fraternal love, and live the Gospel through both contemplation and action. We believe that holiness is not reserved for the perfect, and that the wounds of the past are no obstacle to God's call. ITALIANO Siamo laici consacrati ispirati al carisma delle Suore Domenicane di Betania, fondato sulla visione del Beato Jean-Joseph Lataste. Radicati nella spiritualità domenicana e nella misericordia, formiamo una comunità aperta a tutti—specialmente ai dimenticati, agli ex detenuti e a coloro che vivono ai margini. Come i primi fratelli della Chiesa primitiva, non viviamo in un unico monastero, ma nelle nostre case e città, uniti nella preghiera, nella missione condivisa e nella vita consacrata. Ci riuniamo regolarmente, ci sosteniamo a vicenda con amore fraterno e viviamo il Vangelo attraverso la contemplazione e l’azione. Crediamo che la santità non sia riservata ai perfetti e che le ferite del passato non siano un ostacolo alla chiamata di Dio. ESPAÑOL Somos laicos consagrados inspirados por el carisma de las Hermanas Dominicas de Betania, fundado en la visión del Beato Jean-Joseph Lataste. Enraizados en la espiritualidad dominicana y la misericordia, formamos una comunidad abierta a todos—especialmente a los olvidados, los ex encarcelados y los que viven en los márgenes. Como los primeros hermanos de la Iglesia primitiva, no vivimos en un solo monasterio sino en nuestras propias casas y ciudades, unidos en oración, misión compartida y vida consagrada. Nos reunimos regularmente, nos apoyamos en fraternidad y vivimos el Evangelio a través de la contemplación y la acción. Creemos que la santidad no está reservada para los perfectos y que las heridas del pasado no son obstáculo para el llamado de Dios. OUR CHARISM We follow the path of Bethany: A place where the excluded are welcomed Where prayer meets real suffering Where mercy redefines identity Where no one is defined by their past We live by the truth that "the greatest saints have a past, and the greatest sinners have a future." Our community includes: Men in the free world Formerly incarcerated individuals Life-sentenced brothers called to contemplative life behind bars We are united by Dominican preaching, shared prayer, and the redemptive fire of Christ’s mercy. A HOME FOR YOU? This path may be for you if you: Seek to live a life of Gospel mercy Are drawn to contemplative prayer and community Feel called to serve the outcast and imprisoned Have a personal past in need of redemption and purpose Are a former prisoner, activist, or spiritual seeker FORMATION & LIFE Flexible. Honest. Real. We offer a path of formation that fits your reality: Inquiry & Discernment Initial Formation (remote or with brothers nearby) Private Vows (under a secular institute) Fraternal life in the world or in prison All under the umbrella of the Bethany charism. PRIVACY & DIGNITY In keeping with the GDPR and the fourth vow of our charism—that one's past should never be revealed unless duly authorized—we strictly protect the identities of our members. No last names, personal information, or photos of brothers will be made public. Our communication, storytelling, and imagery respect this sacred commitment to anonymity and mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi999 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago On 7/5/2013 at 1:53 PM, ACS67 said: I understand your frustrations Nikita. I'm 45 years old. My options are limited as well. However, at some point I have to resign myself that if no religious order accepts me than it is God's will. I can either choose to fight that or accept it. One will make me happy, the other miserable. if you are willing, God will open the door. As it stands , I already started looking into opening a secular institute with vows without walls ! Intrigued? well the order would allow single, married and everyone else in. Charism? Father Lataste "There is no past in Bethany, only the present and future hope" more info? sure shoot me a message at profesorluigi at gmail May Father Lataste bless u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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