domenica_therese Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 What are your fears when considering a religious vocation? -- that my desire for it won't be realized, and that God may call me to marriage (which I consider totally & completely beautiful but I think I would find totally unsatisfying) Just seek God's will. If he is calling you to married life, it is the only way in which you will be truly satisfied. :)
nikita92 Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 I identify with Curiousing #2. It won't work out and I will be back in the world where I started... Only with NOTHING to come back to!! No job, shelter, clothes, furniture, electronics.. Cell phone/iPad car, cat, bed...all of it. How can I restart my life with nothing?? I'm also becoming convinced that more people are ending up leaving, than staying in it for life. As it is, finding a community is hard enough. My chances are way slim to begin with. Not having health insurance was a consideration, but now I guess we all don't have to be concerned with that aspect.
Gabriela Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 Just seek God's will. If he is calling you to married life, it is the only way in which you will be truly satisfied. :) While this is true, the "just" makes it sound easy, when in fact, we can't use true satisfaction as a criterion for knowing whether we've achieved God's will when it comes to something that requires taking vows. If I get married in order to find out whether that's God's will for me, then discover I'm not truly satisfied so it must not be God's will... I'm still married. So... now what? If only there were some way to know what will make us truly satisfied before we find ourselves "stuck" in it. Alas, that's what makes discernment hard—and scary!
Gabriela Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 Not having health insurance was a consideration, but now I guess we all don't have to be concerned with that aspect. So as not to hijack this thread, I'm starting a new thread on this topic.
BarbTherese Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) While this is true, the "just" makes it sound easy, when in fact, we can't use true satisfaction as a criterion for knowing whether we've achieved God's will when it comes to something that requires taking vows. If I get married in order to find out whether that's God's will for me, then discover I'm not truly satisfied so it must not be God's will... I'm still married. So... now what? If only there were some way to know what will make us truly satisfied before we find ourselves "stuck" in it. Alas, that's what makes discernment hard—and scary! It tells me that discerning is very serious business. It also tells me something about what my grandaunt prayed when she arrived in the chapel of her chosen religious vocation at a very young age pre V2 "I am here, Lord, and I am here for life." She was professed over 60 years before her death. In the context of Divine Providence that vocation which I have personally embraced (speaking personally) and which has been confirmed by vows is my vocation for life and come what may. Sometimes, however, and I think it is very rare indeed, one is called to one vocation and then out of it into another. Hence discerning God's Will is a lifelong process, especially since God's Will is an ever-unfolding daily minute by minute matter. Hence spiritual direction is almost an essential for those who are going to take the spiritual life and being a disciple and follower of Jesus quite seriously. Some are unable to find a suitable spiritual director and then one can very confidently abandon oneself to The Lord. But not abandon, I don't think, the search for a good spiritual director. Rather often I tend to think, a crisis situation in one's vocation can be mistaken as having chosen the wrong vocation, rather than the challenge to work through the crisis. Edited October 13, 2013 by BarbaraTherese
domenica_therese Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 While this is true, the "just" makes it sound easy, when in fact, we can't use true satisfaction as a criterion for knowing whether we've achieved God's will when it comes to something that requires taking vows. If I get married in order to find out whether that's God's will for me, then discover I'm not truly satisfied so it must not be God's will... I'm still married. So... now what? If only there were some way to know what will make us truly satisfied before we find ourselves "stuck" in it. Alas, that's what makes discernment hard—and scary! By "it is the only way in which you will be truly satisfied" I did not mean that you should find what makes you satisfied, and then make it your vocation, but rather you should trust that God will reveal your vocation to you in time, and that we should trust that whatever it is will fulfill us completely -- even if we don't see it as a fulfilling option now -- because we can never find true, enduring satisfaction in anything else. This is not to say that religious life is total rainbows for anyone who enters, but rather, that if they left it, if it is truly their vocation, they would never find true peace by running. Likewise if we try to insist on religious life because we think it will satisfy us, if it is not God's will, it will not satisfy us. So the satisfaction is more of a consequence than a condition. And I know that "just" does seem like it's too easy, but honestly I think discernment is "easy" because there's really not much we can do to speed the process of God's will. A key condition is passivity to what he wills. So the best way to discern any big thing is just to always try to align yourself to God's will in the little things, and then the big thing will eventually come to you as a natural consequence of the path you have been taking. Discernment becomes hard when try to figure it out like a sudoku.
Aya Sophia Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 Seems the call, whether to rl, marriage, priesthood, often includes an element of surprise. We're presented with something that is not quite as we would have wished or planned for ourself. First step toward accepting God's plans in place of our own is letting go of our own and this can feel like a frightening kind of loss.
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