Islamic Stance

[yiannii]

To the Muslims, our belief of the Trinity, especially the Jesus part, is considered blasphemous

Do Christians believe that their belief (i.e. jesus only being a profit) to be blasphous?

[Aloysius]

Jesus was a prophet, but He was MORE than that as well. I guess to deny His Divinity could be considered blasphemous.

But the belief of "Jesus only being a profit" is valid for people who believe in Him and do the will of His Father, in that Jesus is a "profit" to them (lol, spell check anyone?), but Jesus is not a profit to those who go against Him, but a judgement.

but the serious real question you're asking: to deny Jesus' Divinity is blasphemy. (but i still have much love for the Muslims, especially Ayed who comes by this Phorum from time to time)

Edited June 5, 2004 by Aloysius

[cmotherofpirl]

Jesus Christ is Priest - Prophet - King.

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jun 5 2004, 12:34 PM'] Jesus Christ is Priest - Prophet - King. [/quote]
AMEN!!

[Winchester]

I believe leveling such a charge requires some kind of intent on the part of the blasphemer. Better to present the case than hurl strong words, first. Sometimes you can board the vessel rather than pulling alongside for cannon attacks.

Muslims are mistaken, but the devout intend no disrespect to God. That devotion, I think, can be harnessed and turned to the right path. In public, it can be as important what impression your give to the observers as to the combatants; fire wildly, and any collaterral damage will have an injured opinion of you. Aim true, fair and carefully, and you will be morel ikely to win many over.

A tactical nuke, while enjoyable (God knows that I've launched my own ICBM's at unsuspecting opponents) may kill everyone but the roaches, leaving no one to convert.

[Aloysius]

i wasn't calling anyone a blasphemer, just stating correctly that objectively the denial of Jesus' Divinity is blasphemy. Tis different.

[Winchester]

I wasn't saying you were, I was just giving unsolictied advice. Honestly, I forgot you were here. You may go.




ha ha

[Oik]

lol

[MorphRC]

Pax Iesus

Denying Christ as God, is blasphemious, heresy, infidelity[ u know which one..lol ].

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='MorphRC' date='Jun 7 2004, 08:27 AM'] Pax Iesus

Denying Christ as God, is blasphemious, heresy, infidelity[ u know which one..lol ]. [/quote]
Yes, but the question is whether or not the person incurs the guilt due for that sin. The answer would depend upon their level of knowledge about who they were blaspheming (namely, Christ).

[Winchester]

Heresy indicates a rejection of part of a religion. Rejecting it entirely is not heresy.

Blasphemy is abusive language toward God, I believe intent must be present, here.

Infidelity indicates a lack of fidelity, which neccesitates some reason for fidelity in the first place; it is the most likely of the three, but I think true infidelity is betrayal, and someone who was never in the fold, so to speak, couldn't actually betray.

[thicke]

[quote name='Winchester' date='Jun 8 2004, 12:19 AM'] Heresy indicates a rejection of part of a religion. Rejecting it entirely is not heresy.

Blasphemy is abusive language toward God, I believe intent must be present, here.

Infidelity indicates a lack of fidelity, which neccesitates some reason for fidelity in the first place; it is the most likely of the three, but I think true infidelity is betrayal, and someone who was never in the fold, so to speak, couldn't actually betray. [/quote]
Thanks Winchester! It's nice to know someone else here has a dictionary!

[Guest JeffCR07]

yea, you definately know your stuff! THAT'S apologetics! good job