Encylicals Related To Modernism

[mortify ii]

 

 

1. ON LIBERALISM AND RELIGIOUS INDIFFERENTISM (Mirari Vos)

Pope Gregory XIV. August 15th, 1832.
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Greg16/g16mirar.htm

 

2. CONDEMNING CURRENT ERRORS (Quanta Cura)

Pope Piux IX. December 8th, 1864

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9quanta.htm

 

3. ON THE ORIGIN OF CIVIL POWER (Diuturnum)

Pope Leo XIII. June 29th, 1881

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13civ.htm

 

4. ON FREEMASONRY (Humanum Genus)

Pope Leo XIII. April 20th, 1884

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13human.htm

 

5. ON THE NATURE OF HUMAN LIBERTY (Libertas Praestantissimum)

Pope Leo XIII. June 20th, 1888

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13liber.htm

 

6. ON CAPITAL AND LABOR (Rerum Novarum)

Pope Leo XIII. May 15th, 1891

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13rerum.htm

 

7. ON CHRISTIAN DEMOCRACY (Graves De Communi Re)

Pope Leo XIII. January 18th, 1901

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13grcom.htm

 

8. SYLLABUS CONDEMNING THE ERRORS OF THE MODERNIST (Lamentabili Sane)

Pope Piux X. July 3rd, 1907

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius10/p10lamen.htm

 

9. ON THE DOCTRINE OF THE MODERNISTS (Pascendi Dominici Gregis)

Pope Piux X. September 8th, 1907

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius10/p10pasce.htm

 

10. ON RELIGIOUS UNITY (Mortalium Animos)

Pope Pius XI. January 6th, 1928

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius11/P11MORTA.HTM

 

11. ON ATHEISTIC COMMUNISM (Divini Redemptoris) 

Pope Pius XI, March 19th, 1937

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius11/P11DIVIN.HTM

 

12. HUMANI GENERIS

Pope Pius XII, August 12th, 1950

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius12/P12HUMAN.HTM

 

13. ON THE FEAST OF CHRIST THE KING (QUAS PRIMAS)

Pope Pius XI. December 11, 1925

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius11/P11PRIMA.HTM

 

[mortify ii]

Note nothing beyond the pontificate of Pope Pius XII... 

 

[Nihil Obstat]

To be fair, some modern encyclicals are, to varying degrees, implicitly anti-modernist.

[mortify ii]

To be fair, some modern encyclicals are, to varying degrees, implicitly anti-modernist.

 

Which ones are you referring to, Nihil?

[HisChildForever]

Note nothing beyond the pontificate of Pope Pius XII... 

 

And the conclusion you've reached is...?

 

Do you want the Vatican to come out with anti-modernism texts every decade (give or take)?

[mortify ii]

And the conclusion you've reached is...?

 

Do you want the Vatican to come out with anti-modernism texts every decade (give or take)?

 

Isn't it obvious what has happened?

[Nihil Obstat]

Which ones are you referring to, Nihil?

Mysterium Fidei comes to mind first. Veritatis Splendor.

[Nihil Obstat]

Pope Paul's greatest accomplishment by far, imo, was Humanae Vitae.

[PhuturePriest]

Isn't it obvious what has happened?

 

Other pressing things have come up, such as, I don't know, the birth control pill, abortion, the destruction of the family, all of which have been covered in recent encyclicals?

 

Take note that in the early Church, there were many documents concerning Arianism. They stopped making them, even when Arianism was still present. Why? Because they figured nine thousand documents condemning it would suffice.

[PhuturePriest]

Pope Paul's greatest accomplishment by far, imo, was Humanae Vitae.

 

One of the greatest encyclicals of our time, in my opinion.

 

You know, "our time" being rather relative, since neither you nor I were alive when it was actually written. :P

[Perigrina]

Isn't it obvious what has happened?

 

Overt modernism was pretty much wiped out by Pius X.  While its influence remains in subtle ways, the direct attacks on modernism made by past popes is not the best approach to the covert, subtle version of modernism we are currently dealing with.  The situation has changed so the response of the Church has changed.

[Perigrina]

double post

 

Edited June 4, 2014 by Perigrina

[Nihil Obstat]

Overt modernism was pretty much wiped out by Pius X. While its influence remains in subtle ways, the direct attacks on modernism made by past popes is not the best approach to the covert, subtle version of modernism we are currently dealing with. The situation has changed so the response of the Church has changed.

While agree in principle, it also would not take much convincing for me to think that a new encyclical condemning remaining strains of Modernist thought would be a good idea. Unfortunately it was never wiped out root and branch, and some of its ideas have gained ground in recent decades.

[Perigrina]

While agree in principle, it also would not take much convincing for me to think that a new encyclical condemning remaining strains of Modernist thought would be a good idea. Unfortunately it was never wiped out root and branch, and some of its ideas have gained ground in recent decades.

 

To a large extent, this was done in Fides et Ratio http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_15101998_fides-et-ratio_en.html

[mortify ii]

It's interesting that you feel modernism has essentially died out. To me it seems many of the modernist positions have been vindicated and the things past popes warned against now official policy.

I do find it remarkable that the only times infallibility has been evoked in living memory was again contraception and for an all male priesthood.

[Credo in Deum]

How about you write a letter to His Holiness Pope Francis regarding your concerns and suggestions. Put your contact information since he has been known to call back.

Mailing address:

His Holiness, Pope Francis
Apostolic Palace
00120 Vatican City

Edited June 4, 2014 by Credo in Deum

[Perigrina]

It's interesting that you feel modernism has essentially died out. To me it seems many of the modernist positions have been vindicated and the things past popes warned against now official policy.

I do find it remarkable that the only times infallibility has been evoked in living memory was again contraception and for an all male priesthood.

 

The sort of modernism condemned by previous popes no longer exists.  What we are dealing with now is post-modernism and even post-post-modernism.  Yes, there are still lots of seriously wrong ideas around.  They need to be dealt with on their own terms, not in reference to modernism.

 

Historically, exercises of papal infallibility have been rare.  I would not expect to see many of them.

[Nihil Obstat]

I think it would be worthwhile and appropriate for a reiteration of the first part of the Oath Against Modernism in more detailed encyclical form. That is:

 

Fourthly, I sincerely hold that the doctrine of faith was handed down to us from the apostles through the orthodox Fathers in exactly the same meaning and always in the same purport. Therefore, I entirely reject the heretical' misrepresentation that dogmas evolve and change from one meaning to another different from the one which the Church held previously. I also condemn every error according to which, in place of the divine deposit which has been given to the spouse of Christ to be carefully guarded by her, there is put a philosophical figment or product of a human conscience that has gradually been developed by human effort and will continue to develop indefinitely. Fifthly, I hold with certainty and sincerely confess that faith is not a blind sentiment of religion welling up from the depths of the subconscious under the impulse of the heart and the motion of a will trained to morality; but faith is a genuine assent of the intellect to truth received by hearing from an external source. By this assent, because of the authority of the supremely truthful God, we believe to be true that which has been revealed and attested to by a personal God, our creator and lord.

 

[Perigrina]

Compare the above passage with this passage regarding the problem of dissent found in Donum Veritatis:

 

The phenomenon of dissent can have diverse forms. Its remote and proximate causes are multiple.

The ideology of philosophical liberalism, which permeates the thinking of our age, must be counted among the factors which may exercise their remote or indirect influence. Here arises the tendency to regard a judgment as having all the more validity to the extent that it proceeds from the individual relying upon his own powers. In such a way freedom of thought comes to oppose the authority of tradition which is considered a cause of servitude. A teaching handed on and generally received is apriori suspect and its truth contested. Ultimately, freedom of judgment understood in this way is more important than the truth itself. 

 

I do not have any trouble seeing a continuity between them.

Edited June 4, 2014 by Perigrina

[CrossCuT]

Can someone define what they think Modernism means? Im assuming PM people think differently than Wiki. I just want to be on the same page when reading about modernism ish on the forums.