Marriage Rates Hit New, All-time Low

[veritasluxmea]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's confused here too....

[Aloysius]

Not sure why anyone's so confused... I'm definitely still single because of cows.

[little2add]

Not sure why anyone's so confused... I'm definitely still single because of cows.

Is that what the old saying "why buy the cow if you get your milk for free" is all about?

[puellapaschalis]

Is that what the old saying "why buy the cow if you get your milk for free" is all about?

 

Possibly, but why the awkward turn of phrase? Can't we use the word 'fornication' anymore?
 

[Gabriela]

I figured it referred to "sacred cows", i.e., assumptions we make that it's taboo to question.

[little2add]

http://s35.photobucket.com/user/wisper3/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps005e5b46.jpg.html

[puellapaschalis]

'Cow' where I come from is a derogatory word for a woman, bit like 'b*tch'. Maybe it's that?

Edited October 17, 2014 by puellapaschalis

[veritasluxmea]

Maybe the post is sarcastic and the whole list is made up? 

 

The world will never know. 

[truthfinder]

Or maybe's it's an actual cow...

[little2add]

[Norseman82]

Is that what the old saying "why buy the cow if you get your milk for free" is all about?

 

Yes, that's exactly what she was referring to. 

 

Think about how some of those factors work together to encourage the "why buy the cow if you get the milk for free" minset.  Because of contraception, people don't have to risk their career, since they have the comfort (false as it is) to have sex without having to worry about pregnancy (although they forget about the risk of STDs, plus artificial contraception is not 100% effective).  This is reinforced by our culture.  

 

I didn't realize that the topic would be steered so much in this direction. 

 

 

 

Edited October 18, 2014 by Norseman82

[superblue]

Many also point a finger at the federal government, saying its policies encourage people not to marry. They cite tax penalties for married couples and noting that assistance benefits to single parents generally drop if they get married and increase their household

 

According to the latest available census data, the percentage of U.S. adults who have never been married has hit a new, all-time high.

In 1960, about one in ten adults over the age of 25 fell into that category.

By 2012, the number had jumped to one in five.

 

WHY? :think2:

 

 

I don't know about any statistics but I think the main reason is deff the Federal Government, and a democrat party that works very hard at destroying the concept of what a family is, along with a weak kneed republican party not doing enough to stand up for marriage.  Then add in a liberal society that paints the picture of the exact opposite of a life that Catholics / Christians strive towards... and there comes a clearer picture as to why.

 

Our own political parities, and government are working to make sure that their church is more powerful than the True Church.  An if they can destroy marriage, they are one step closer to sealing the lid on the coffin.

[little2add]

I don't know about any statistics but I think the main reason is deff the Federal Government, and a democrat party that works very hard at destroying the concept of what a family is, along with a weak kneed republican party not doing enough to stand up for marriage. Then add in a liberal society that paints the picture of the exact opposite of a life that Catholics / Christians strive towards... and there comes a clearer picture as to why.

Our own political parities, and government are working to make sure that their church is more powerful than the True Church. An if they can destroy marriage, they are one step closer to sealing the lid on the coffin.

I couldn't disagree more! People have control of their our behavior, The government is not out to get us, society behavior is merrily a reflection of the way we live
Finding Happiness (heaven) simply goes back to following the path of righteous selfless lives, as Jesus Christ taught Edited October 18, 2014 by little2add

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

You're kidding, right? Otherwise, I'm going to want to see statistical evidence for such an assertion.  

 

It's a guess, hence the "i think..." :)

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

You're kidding, right? Otherwise, I'm going to want to see statistical evidence for such an assertion.  

 

And you don't think women would rebel against this, if there has been a dramatic increase over the last 100 years? I know i would if i where a women?

Edited October 19, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

[truthfinder]

And you don't think women would rebel against this, if there has been a dramatic increase over the last 100 years? I know i would if i where a women?

Tab, 

I am a woman.  I honestly don't think the initial reason women think to themselves "I'm not going to get married" is because they think they're going to be abused.  Abuse is just as likely, if not more, in cohabiting couples.  And like I said, I don't believe there's an increase of abuse over the last 100 years.  It's become more visible and acknowledged what constitutes abuse, and the enshrinement in law has been removed (ie. you can hit a woman with a stick as long as it is no bigger in diameter than your thumb.)

[veritasluxmea]

Actually, lesbian relationships are statistically more likely to be abusive. And that's two women. Every human can abuse or be abused, and many men are victims of domestic violence too.

 

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02

 

[truthfinder]

Interesting, even gay men are physically assaulted more than women. Thanks for the chart. I would still like to see a comparison on cohabiting vs married partner violence.

[superblue]

I couldn't disagree more! People have control of their our behavior, The government is not out to get us, society behavior is merrily a reflection of the way we live
Finding Happiness (heaven) simply goes back to following the path of righteous selfless lives, as Jesus Christ taught

 

 

Pft the thing is, the goverment already has us, so there is nothing to get, all that is left is maintaining the power they have, and perhaps I should have included all sources instead of just pinning it on the gov, but since the topic was aimed at the gov i stuck with just that.

 

to be objective the fault is three fold, the gov, the Church, and ourselves.

 

The faults of the government are obvious, the Church is a lil more complicated, but after hearing the topic on i think it was C.A.F radio I couldnt disagree,  basically the speaker mentioned that the between Holy Orders, and the Sacrament of Marriage, the Sacrament of Marriage in regards to preperation is done a diservice because at best the couple only goes through a 6 mnth phase where it is probably not much more than than a few retreats and what not, vs a candidate for the priesthood, who is constantly scruitinized for years on end before finally being ordained, going through a rigerous and daunting interview, having your life torn wide open for all to see and judge..... 

 

so the speaker was trying to emphasis how comparing the two, that for the sacrament of marriage, there should be more than just a simple 6 month program with scattered retreats, and then of course it comes down to individuals in the faith, ( cant really say all of society because marriage is a sacrament for those of the faith  so really the topic it self is a  misnomer, the topic and the polling should be done specifically on those catholics in the church who are able to be married  considering the church does not consider marriage outside the church valid ) OR split the topic into secular marriage for those who want to make it a political agenda , in which case the blame is only on the Government and those indivduals who chose to or not.

 

In the secular world outside the faith, the government and society ( media , tv programs etc ) are not doing anything to support marriage.

 

when you have orgs in the world that promote feminisim , hatred towards men in general,  have drive through divorce options, and portray a single life and just cohabitating as being the way to go, on top of promoting abortion and how one should not be burdened with children if they so deem it, then why would that secular society on a whole be inclinde to want to consider marriage as a life long commitment.

[Nihil Obstat]

so the speaker was trying to emphasis how comparing the two, that for the sacrament of marriage, there should be more than just a simple 6 month program with scattered retreats, and then of course it comes down to individuals in the faith, ( cant really say all of society because marriage is a sacrament for those of the faith  so really the topic it self is a  misnomer, the topic and the polling should be done specifically on those catholics in the church who are able to be married  considering the church does not consider marriage outside the church valid ) OR split the topic into secular marriage for those who want to make it a political agenda , in which case the blame is only on the Government and those indivduals who chose to or not.
 

You are confused between a marriage being valid and a marriage being sacramental. Non-Catholics can and do contract valid marriages. They are simply natural, i.e. non-sacramental. However Catholics are bound to observe proper form - held to a higher standard. For that reason, a Catholic who does not observe proper form is not married validly. Two non-Catholics are not bound to observe the canonical form, therefore their marriage is valid, simply not sacramental.