We Finally Have hope and change ! <3

[superblue]

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/two-moms-to-finally-wed-in-home-state-after-122363241432.html  ( we are finally doing away with stone age hatred  ( praise obama ) )

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/the-reverend-president-obama-sings-amazing-122531605241.html  ( we finally have a priest / president , amazing ! thanks for saving us obama )

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/politics/supreme-court-ruling-obamacare/index.html ( and praise obama, the supreme court upheld a dream come true )

 

more fun to come.

[Peace]

LOL. Actually I think you can blame President Reagan for today's result.

[superblue]

LOL. Actually I think you can blame President Reagan for today's result.

LOL actually, not a snowballs chance in hell for today's result.

But hey least any good Catholic who is a democrat can explain why they support a party for abortion and destroying America one piece at a time by pushing such agendas through.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2015/06/25/obama-scolds-transgender-immigrant-who-heckled-him-at-white-house-shame-on/

^ what is this ? a double whammy, a transgender and an immigrant, heckling his majesty, and his majesty says what ?

http://factsopinionsandrants.blogspot.com/2008/10/republicans-vs-democrats-true-history.html

[Winchester]

People now have permission to ask permission. Wow. What a victory. Truly liberating. Thank you, masters! Thank you!

[veritasluxmea]

Starting thread topics in certain subforums should be reserved to people who have a certain status, like over a couple thousand posts or a church militant tag or something. Just throwing it out there. 

[ardillacid]

LOL. Actually I think you can blame President Reagan for today's result.

So can we blame people who voted for him?

[Catlick]

LOL. Actually I think you can blame President Reagan for today's result.

True to some extend. Reagan was (to my knowledge) the first and only divorced President. 

[Peace]

LOL actually, not a snowballs chance in hell for today's result.

But hey least any good Catholic who is a democrat can explain why they support a party for abortion and destroying America one piece at a time by pushing such agendas through.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2015/06/25/obama-scolds-transgender-immigrant-who-heckled-him-at-white-house-shame-on/

^ what is this ? a double whammy, a transgender and an immigrant, heckling his majesty, and his majesty says what ?

http://factsopinionsandrants.blogspot.com/2008/10/republicans-vs-democrats-true-history.html

For me it is not about being a Democrat or being a Republican. It is about trying to support policies that are consistent with what our blessed Lord taught us and policies that are consistent with what our Church advocates. She advocates some policies that are supported by the Republican Party and some polices that are supported by the Democratic Party. If you are beholden to either party then you are putting your politics ahead of your faith.

As for your second "true history" link - it is also a provable fact that the Republic Party of today instituted the Southern Strategy. In no meaningful sense does it remain the party of Lincoln.

[Kateri89]

For me it is not about being a Democrat or being a Republican. It is about trying to support policies that are consistent with what our blessed Lord taught us and policies that are consistent with what our Church advocates. She advocates some policies that are supported by the Republican Party and some polices that are supported by the Democratic Party. If you are beholden to either party then you are putting your politics ahead of your faith.

As for your second "true history" link - it is also a provable fact that the Republic Party of today instituted the Southern Strategy. In no meaningful sense does it remain the party of Lincoln.

Amen.

[superblue]

man yall cant stand being wrong, it is a shame you guys got to live with that forever.

[superblue]

ya know what is more amesome than any of this, is that those who participate in the socialist / abortion loving party aka the democrat party, are soooooooooooooo easily offended and are way too easy to aggravate . I hope to one day have my own radio program or wait i can just start a youtube page, duh ! See another amesome moment, and i can just make amesome point after amesome point at how the republican party is lazy ,scared, and two faced, and the other party is just full of scum bags. An then you guys can call in screaming and moaning and crying and spouting, you have no proof... i can sit back, relax, blow off some steam and unwind in the process there for getting rid of all my unwanted stress. You guys get a headache who support all this garbage, and perhaps stop ruining society in general till your headaches are gone, and who knows i might throw up a number or a link to donate money to a cause and then it is just one giant win over all.

 

Peace out nerds.

[Nihil Obstat]

Dude you need to chill.

[Socrates]

Before we all pile on Reagan, it should be noted that prior to being appointed Supreme Court justice, Kennedy's judicial record and words were actually pretty conservative, and gave no real indication of the direction he would go.  After being appointed to the Court, he lurched sharply to the left.  (Roberts played a similar trick, though he at least voted correctly on this one.)

And of course, the four Democrat appointees who voted for the majority decision are without blame.

 

For me it is not about being a Democrat or being a Republican. It is about trying to support policies that are consistent with what our blessed Lord taught us and policies that are consistent with what our Church advocates. She advocates some policies that are supported by the Republican Party and some polices that are supported by the Democratic Party.

Seriously, today neither the Democratic nor the Republican party at the national level supports much consistent with what Our Blessed Lord taught us.  

Unless you really want to suggest Our Blessed Lord supports endless increases in federal borrowing and spending of money and endless growth of government bureaucracy, endless lies, cronyism, and laying a massive unpayable debt on our young and future generations.  (Must be some "private revelation" I missed.)

The policies supported by the Democratic Party are evil, stupid, and destructive, and for the most part, the GOP "leadership" in Congress hands them whatever they want, while making only a pathetic pretense of "opposition" to get votes.

[Peace]

*Some* of the policies supported by the Democrats are evil, stupid, and destructive. Other policies supported by the Democrats are constructive and supported by the Church. The same can be said of the policies of the Republicans.

I agree with you that there are many things that should be changed, but as we discussed in another thread, the Church does not appear to support the sort of "every man for himself" type of government that you appear to desire.

[Peace]

ya know what is more amesome than any of this, is that those who participate in the socialist / abortion loving party aka the democrat party, are soooooooooooooo easily offended and are way too easy to aggravate . I hope to one day have my own radio program or wait i can just start a youtube page, duh ! See another amesome moment, and i can just make amesome point after amesome point at how the republican party is lazy ,scared, and two faced, and the other party is just full of scum bags. An then you guys can call in screaming and moaning and crying and spouting, you have no proof... i can sit back, relax, blow off some steam and unwind in the process there for getting rid of all my unwanted stress. You guys get a headache who support all this garbage, and perhaps stop ruining society in general till your headaches are gone, and who knows i might throw up a number or a link to donate money to a cause and then it is just one giant win over all.

 

Peace out nerds.

You seem to be the only one in this thread who is screaming and moaning.

[superblue]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2015/06/26/white-house-rainbow-gay-marriage/29374471/

 

Man the socialist party and obama are so so amesome,, what is the new prayer to obama and his just so enlightenedness for doing something so amesome.

lol screaming ? and moaning ?

 

 

Socialism is not with in an of itself evil / it is just a constant failure for society in general, everyone loses except those at the top, less now you wave the red,white, and blue with those views.

but hey, keep patting yourselves on the back for being so " progressive " while things like this are done to the White House, which once use to be taken seriously and is now just a joke. Keep voting for the party that supports abortions and promotes race baiting all under the guise of caring and peace and love and promising a utopia and gobbling up low information voters day and night. 

 

peace out nerds.

[Peace]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2015/06/26/white-house-rainbow-gay-marriage/29374471/

 

Man the socialist party and obama are so so amesome,, what is the new prayer to obama and his just so enlightenedness for doing something so amesome.

lol screaming ? and moaning ?

 

 

Socialism is not with in an of itself evil / it is just a constant failure for society in general, everyone loses except those at the top, less now you wave the red,white, and blue with those views.

but hey, keep patting yourselves on the back for being so " progressive " while things like this are done to the White House, which once use to be taken seriously and is now just a joke. Keep voting for the party that supports abortions and promotes race baiting all under the guise of caring and peace and love and promising a utopia and gobbling up low information voters day and night. 

 

peace out nerds.

To be quite honest this seems rather incoherent to me. It seems like more of a rant than anything, and I am not quite sure what point it is that you are trying to make overall.

Keep in mind that the Church is not a uniquely American institution. She exists in most countries throughout the world. And therefore an attempt to fit Her within one's own brand of conservative (or liberal) American politics is not something that is likely to be successful.

As for people patting themselves on the back for being progressive - I do not know who you are referring to. But to clarify - I do not support the legalization of gay marriage. I do not support the legalization of abortion or euthanasia. I do support some policies that are more typically advocated by the Democrats, such as restriction of the death penalty, universal health care, and certain welfare programs such as food stamps (SNAP). Those are policy positions that are all supported by the US Conference of Catholic Bishops.

I have not decided who I will vote for in the next presidential election, but as it is now John Kasich and Jeb Bush are the candidates that I find the most appealing. But again, for me it is not about being Democrat or Republican. It is about trying to be consistent with the Catholic Church.

I think we have to be careful to identify as Catholics first and foremost, and align our politics such that it is consistent with what the Church teaches. In America many people are guilty of the opposite - identifying first as a Democrat or a Republican, and then attempting to use our Church as a means to further our politics.

Peace to you as well.

[Yaatee]

Good show, Peace.

[Socrates]

*Some* of the policies supported by the Democrats are evil, stupid, and destructive. Other policies supported by the Democrats are constructive and supported by the Church. The same can be said of the policies of the Republicans.

I agree with you that there are many things that should be changed, but as we discussed in another thread, the Church does not appear to support the sort of "every man for himself" type of government that you appear to desire.

Neither does the Church support a massive, centralized all-encompassing, ever-growing welfare/entitlement state, which borrows and spends the country into bankruptcy - which is the government we actually now have.  (And, just for the record, I don't agree with much of the politics of the USCCB, which certainly does not have infallible political judgment.)

Both parties are moving in the wrong direction, at least at the national "leadership" level, and I certainly wouldn't regard the ideal Christian society as being some sort of compromise between current Democrat and Republican policies (much as the heavily-politicized USCCB might give that impression).

[Peace]

And, just for the record, I don't agree with much of the politics of the USCCB, which certainly does not have infallible political judgment.

It seems that many politically conservative Catholics only follow the Church on issues that they are dogmatically required to. On issues that they are not dogmatically required to follow, they do not seem to respect the Church's advice or guidance much at all. It seems to be a similar attitude as the so-called liberal "Cafeteria Catholics". They do not really seem to have given their whole heart to the Church. They seem to pick and choose what they want to follow. The only difference between them and the liberals is that some of the things the liberals reject are doctrine.

But that is my impression. I do not know how they view things or where there hearts are. Only God knows that, of course.

I do not know if any of the above would apply to you, but to the extent that it does, does it not make your relationship with the Church more of like a master/servant relationship than a father/son relationship?  The attitude of some seems to be "I do what I am required to do. Beyond that, I do what I want to do, or I do what I believe is best." It seems like some rejoice in their freedom to disagree with the Church.

But shouldn't one's general attitude towards the Church be more like the attitude towards loving parents? You know that She has been around a whole lot longer than you have. You know that She is wiser than you are. You know that She has your best interest in mind. So why not look to Her for guidance and follow Her advice, even in the areas where you are not strictly required to, such as politics?