Paladin D Posted July 6, 2003 Posted July 6, 2003 Who killed Joan of Arc? I own a movie that tells the story of Joan of Arc (well made movie), and there is some sort of Bishop that is involved at the end, with Joan's burning at the stake. Was he a Catholic bishop, or someone else?
IcePrincessKRS Posted July 6, 2003 Posted July 6, 2003 Check out the newadvent.org biography on her. It should help to explain things for you. (I'd post it, but its pretty long.) http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08409c.htm
Winchester Posted July 6, 2003 Posted July 6, 2003 Colonel Mustard, in the library, with the revolver.
Winchester Posted July 7, 2003 Posted July 7, 2003 Is no one going to touch this? I bet Joan laughed.
Carrie Posted July 7, 2003 Posted July 7, 2003 Colonel Mustard, in the library, with the revolver. (better late than never) I LOVED Clue as a kid!
dUSt Posted July 7, 2003 Posted July 7, 2003 Who killed Joan of Arc? I own a movie that tells the story of Joan of Arc (well made movie), and there is some sort of Bishop that is involved at the end, with Joan's burning at the stake. Was he a Catholic bishop, or someone else? What was the name and year of the movie?
Paladin D Posted July 7, 2003 Author Posted July 7, 2003 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=glance&s=video
Winchester Posted July 7, 2003 Posted July 7, 2003 The transcript of the trial still exists. There is no excuse for scholars to get it wrong. Regine Pernoud wrote extensively about her. look on amazon.
Paladin D Posted July 10, 2003 Author Posted July 10, 2003 From what I got at NewAdvent.org... Moreover, they had a tool ready to their hand in Pierre Cauchon, the Bishop of Beauvais, an unscrupulous and ambitious man who was the creature of the Burgundian party. A pretext for invoking his authority was found in the fact that Compiègne, where Joan was captured, lay in the Diocese of Beauvais. Still, as Beauvais was in the hands of the French, the trial took place at Rouen -- the latter see being at that time vacant. This raised many points of technical legality which were summarily settled by the parties interested. Was he a Catholic Bishop? If so, he was corrupted in a sense? A product of the Burgundian party? Anyone know if the Catholic Church as a whole, had any involvement in this trial?
Jake Huether Posted July 10, 2003 Posted July 10, 2003 Yes I believe it was a Catholic Bishop who had her killed. But it was a corrupt individual who at that point in his life should not have been considered a Catholic (because he rejected some of the Truthes that his own Church taught). Therefore, do not misconstrue the issue with a "Catholic" Bishop doing somethign very unCatholic. Kinda like the, gulp (dare I say the word again, scandles going on. Those Bishops and priests are part of the Catholic Church. But it isn't an issue with the Catholic faith (which teaches against that garbage). So, I think I'm right anyway...
Paladin D Posted July 10, 2003 Author Posted July 10, 2003 (edited) Ah ok, thanks for clearing that up. I wonder if the Pope ever made an attempt to try and attend to this event or not. Edited July 10, 2003 by Paladin D
PatrickRitaMichael Posted January 19, 2004 Posted January 19, 2004 Any person who appealed to the Pope had the right to be tried in front of him. But the bad Bishop didn't tell Joan that and she didn't know b/c she was an uneducated peasant girl. So the Holy Father didn't know about this trial until later when he sent people to investigate and they found her innocent. This is how she eventually became a saint. Mark Twain wrote a beautiful book called (duh) Joan of Arc that details her life and the trial very well. I would say the British killed her b/c they were the ones who plotted and got the Bishop to condemn her.
PedroX Posted January 19, 2004 Posted January 19, 2004 The Bishop was compicit in her death for he grasped at the power the English offered him. Again, not to confuse his action as being "Catholic" in any sense. peace...
megamattman1 Posted January 19, 2004 Posted January 19, 2004 Colonel Mustard, in the library, with the revolver. :rolling:
God Conquers Posted January 19, 2004 Posted January 19, 2004 Everyone was Catholic when this event took place. That is, everyone in europe, other than Jews. If you captured the commander of your worst enemie's armies, enemies with whom you have been at war with for a generation, and almost beat, but this commander rallied them back, you would want to find reason to execute that prisoner. The British did, and followed through. Don't worry, they lost in the end.
Ellenita Posted January 19, 2004 Posted January 19, 2004 (edited) I would say the British killed her becasue they were the ones who plotted and got the bishop to condemn her. :sadder: :ph34r: :leave: Edited January 19, 2004 by Ellenita
God Conquers Posted January 19, 2004 Posted January 19, 2004 haha, I don't think what Church and Royal officials did in the middle ages reflects poorly on you Ellenita!
Ellenita Posted January 20, 2004 Posted January 20, 2004 Muchas gracias God Conquers! :wub: It's a great relief! :D
Anna Posted January 20, 2004 Posted January 20, 2004 The transcript of the trial still exists. There is no excuse for scholars to get it wrong. Regine Pernoud wrote extensively about her. look on amazon. I've had an ebay book search for over a year on a book by this author, called "The Mystery of the Charity of Joan of Arc." If anyone knows where I could obtain a copy, pm me!! Pax Christi. <><
Ellenita Posted January 20, 2004 Posted January 20, 2004 Anna, there are a number of books on Joan of Arc by this author at Amazon.co.uk but none exactly matching the title. However some of the titles are in French and I'm ashamed to say my French isn't good enough - could the translation be different do you think from the original French?
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