MarysLittleFlower Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) I found a little pin one day that's a little cross with a rose on it. To me it was just decorative and I thought "oh cool! A cross and a rose, this reminds me of St Therese!". So I wore it around her feast day. Then I thought maybe I'll look it up and if it actually has some meaning... And I found a similar thing on masonic sites!!!!! :O. So just so its clear I'm TOTALLY against the masons. I tell people about Our Lady of Good Success to tell them about how bad the masonic sects are. Now I'm kind of scared... Was I wearing a masonic symbol all this time?? some other sites I saw are associated with veterans so I thought maybe its a veterans thing? But why the masons? if you Google "cross and rose pin and masons" you will see what I mean. Why would they use a cross at all? So misleading! ...So if it was masonic I didn't sin and get excommunicated did I? Cause I had zero such intention. Poor St Therese! (End of my long speech... Please help me out). Edited October 9, 2015 by MarysLittleFlower
Luigi Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 There used to be a retreat program for young adults - high school juniors & seniors, and college students - called Search for Christian Maturity (generally referred to simply as Search). They used a cross with a rose on it, too. They had medals. Maybe you got hold of a Search medal.
He is Risen! Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 I usually associate a cross with a red rose on it with the Rosicrucians.
Nihil Obstat Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 I found a little pin one day that's a little cross with a rose on it. To me it was just decorative and I thought "oh cool! A cross and a rose, this reminds me of St Therese!". So I wore it around her feast day. Then I thought maybe I'll look it up and if it actually has some meaning... And I found a similar thing on masonic sites!!!!! :O. So just so its clear I'm TOTALLY against the masons. I tell people about Our Lady of Good Success to tell them about how bad the masonic sects are. Now I'm kind of scared... Was I wearing a masonic symbol all this time?? some other sites I saw are associated with veterans so I thought maybe its a veterans thing? But why the masons? if you Google "cross and rose pin and masons" you will see what I mean. Why would they use a cross at all? So misleading! ...So if it was masonic I didn't sin and get excommunicated did I? Cause I had zero such intention. Poor St Therese! (End of my long speech... Please help me out). Excommunication would only possibly be relevant if you had actually joined a Mason-affiliated group. (You cannot even join the Masons as you are, I think, female.)In any case, it is not guaranteed that it was a Masonic symbol. If you would like, post a picture here and we can try to figure it out.
bardegaulois Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 I found a little pin one day that's a little cross with a rose on it. To me it was just decorative and I thought "oh cool! A cross and a rose, this reminds me of St Therese!". So I wore it around her feast day. Then I thought maybe I'll look it up and if it actually has some meaning... And I found a similar thing on masonic sites!!!!! :O. So just so its clear I'm TOTALLY against the masons. I tell people about Our Lady of Good Success to tell them about how bad the masonic sects are. Now I'm kind of scared... Was I wearing a masonic symbol all this time?? some other sites I saw are associated with veterans so I thought maybe its a veterans thing? But why the masons? if you Google "cross and rose pin and masons" you will see what I mean. Why would they use a cross at all? So misleading! ...So if it was masonic I didn't sin and get excommunicated did I? Cause I had zero such intention. Poor St Therese! (End of my long speech... Please help me out). All you did was to wear a symbol to which you had ascribed a meaning perhaps different from what was intended by its maker. Not only are you not excommunicated, you didn't even sin. The Rosy Cross, however, though used by certain higher levels of Masons, is quite independent of Masonry. It has a long history as a symbol used by Western Kabbalists, alchemists, and hermeticists in general, and even by New-Agers and occultists today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_Cross. Some have organized themselves into sets of Rosicrucians. So the Rosy Cross is not quite Masonic, but emerges from the same milieu.
MarysLittleFlower Posted October 9, 2015 Author Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Ah that's not any better I'm terrified to think I may have worn a symbol of the Rosicrucians! I understand though that sin is in the will what should I do with it now? Of course I took it off. I still think its so misleading that those esoteric groups would use a cross in their symbols. They deny true Christianity So it looks like this basically... But the rose is pink. It doesn't have all that added stuff of the Rosicrucian picture. http://www.autom.com/lapel-pins/pins-under-1/rose-cross-enamel-pin-10283. I thought it could also be veteran related because I saw some links to that too. I don't know. In any case it clearly refers to something other than what I wanted lol. Of course I'd rather it be related to veterans than some anti Catholic sect of any type like masons / Rosicrucians / etc. Edited October 9, 2015 by MarysLittleFlower
bardegaulois Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Ah that's not any better I'm terrified to think I may have worn a symbol of the Rosicrucians! I understand though that sin is in the will what should I do with it now? Of course I took it off. I still think its so misleading that those esoteric groups would use a cross in their symbols. They deny true Christianity So it looks like this basically... But the rose is pink. It doesn't have all that added stuff of the Rosicrucian picture. http://www.autom.com/lapel-pins/pins-under-1/rose-cross-enamel-pin-10283. I thought it could also be veteran related because I saw some links to that too. I don't know. In any case it clearly refers to something other than what I wanted lol. Of course I'd rather it be related to veterans than some anti Catholic sect of any type like masons / Rosicrucians / etc. There's no way to know its provenance for sure, so it's best you not worry about it too much. If the fact that it could have been a sign of occultists or sorcerers is bothering, just bring it to a priest and ask him to bless it with holy water. That will surely dispel anything that may be attached to it, and allow what is truly a beautiful symbol to be redeemed from any troubling connotations.
Anomaly Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 LOL. Seriously, it's not a horcrux like in Harry Potter.
MarysLittleFlower Posted October 9, 2015 Author Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Of course its not but I just don't want people to think I'm a Rosicrucian or something like that. Its the association. That's why I won't wear it anymore. I switched to my pin of St Philomena instead :D. I also think those groups shouldn't use this symbolism because its a cross. Edited October 9, 2015 by MarysLittleFlower
NadaTeTurbe Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Those groups souldn't do a lot of things...
MarysLittleFlower Posted October 9, 2015 Author Posted October 9, 2015 Those groups souldn't do a lot of things... True
Anomaly Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Of course its not but I just don't want people to think I'm a Rosicrucian or something like that. Its the association. That's why I won't wear it anymore. I switched to my pin of St Philomena instead :D. I also think those groups shouldn't use this symbolism because its a cross. You can't control what people think any more than you can accurately guess what they're thinking. Especially considering 99% would think: "a cross with a rose on it. Pretty". End of story. However, I'm concerned that you found someone's trinket and kept it with going to great effort to return it or turn it in to lost and found. That seems like bad juju. Especially if it was a religious symbol. It could have been discarded by a Darkfriend. It seems it set its hook into you immediately and it thinks it owns you now. Please report yourself to a Bishop for possible exorcism or cleansing ASAHP (as soon as holy possible). Kidding
MarysLittleFlower Posted October 9, 2015 Author Posted October 9, 2015 Well just to clarify I don't mean that I found something that someone lost. It was in a give away box - someone was giving it, not losing it
Nunsense Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 There are also Celtic crosses with roses on them- lots of different styles. Why don't you post a pic and we can try to identify it.
MarysLittleFlower Posted October 9, 2015 Author Posted October 9, 2015 Its pretty much like this only the rose is pink. This one is from a veterans site which is one of the theories... I saw this cross on either veterans sites or masonic sites...dont know why! .http://www.veteransunnatons.org/products/cross-rose-pin-jd10
truthfinder Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 Its pretty much like this only the rose is pink. This one is from a veterans site which is one of the theories... I saw this cross on either veterans sites or masonic sites...dont know why! .http://www.veteransunnatons.org/products/cross-rose-pin-jd10 Looking at that, it almost seems like a stylized poppy - not a rose.
Nunsense Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 Looking at that, it almost seems like a stylized poppy - not a rose. I think you've got something there. The poppy on a cross is a symbol of remembrance day, so maybe someone hadthis one made.
MarysLittleFlower Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 Hmmm that's an idea but the flower on the one I have is pink? It looks like a rose to me.. ? I wish I could post a picture but my phone usually doesn't let me!
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