Don't Judge Me

[dUSt]

Don't judge me.

I see this phrase, or some variation of this philosophy, used everywhere. It seems like kids use it nowadays to justify any and every type of behavior. Moral relativism in all of it's false glory, manifested in the minds of our youth.

How do we stop it?

[Era Might]

Albert Camus is remembered as an exisentialist, but he wrote a lot against nihilism, the abdication of responsibility to ourselves and to each other. We don't take each other seriously when we don't feel responsible for the lives we lead, and when we don't take a real interest in the lives we lead. The adult version of Don't Judge Me is maybe, Good Morning, I'm good and yourself? We speak to each other but we don't really want to know what's going on, so we say I'm good and move on. The young at least haven't reached that stage of cynicism or fatalism, they're still willing to expose themselves, although they are not ready for the responsibility of being. I'd say the best way to change this is to take them seriously...the judge doesn't take anyone seriously, his only concern is the law. Walt Whitman has a memorable line in his preface to Leaves of Grass: the poet judges not as a judge judges but as the sun falling around a helpless thing. That seems to me a perfect metaphor for what adults owe to the young.

Edited June 1, 2016 by Era Might

[Nihil Obstat]

One could point out all the ways in which moral judgements are necessary in a just society, or depending on the relationship, one might point out all the moral judgements the 'non-judgemental' person makes

Objecting to moral judgements is like getting angry at gravity when a person falls and hurts themselves.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I figure to judge someone is to say they are bad. To make a judgement is to discern a particular action as being detrimental or advantageous to a person or person/s(society.) There is a difference between making a judgement and judging someone, we can not judge a person usually because we know not the entire history of that person and as to the why they have committed a particular act and perhaps continue to. We can not judge the person but we can judge the act. And usually people do bad things because there is a lack of love in there life. Why the increase of crime and sin in modern society? I guarantee it is because of the lack of love. Whos to blame? The Church! Why? 1st and foremost because we aren't loving our brothers and sisters in Christ, when we love someone we desire to be around them regularly and Jesus says "wherever any 2 or more are gathered in my name i shall be there." It is in our gathering together as the body of Christ that the light shines into the darkness of the world and makes it grey, "faith is dead without works" and the works are love not material, even if we are not interacting with the outside world though it is better to do so in an evangelical manner, St Augustine " the sanctity of your own life converts X" without love you are definitely not sanctified though you may believe you are or feel good i am bold enough to say that you are most probably deceived and lying to yourself.

Someone posted a topic on here recently that asks " can i be saved with prayer, fasting, helping the poor, reading spiritual books, etc etc" The answer is a resounding NO! Because without LOVE you can not be saved, you will not enter the kingdom. Introvert is a modern phenomena caused by the shrinking of the part of the brain for multi tasking caused by moving pictures on a screen.

This whole personal relationship does not exist, we have been fooled. The holy trinity is a community and we must reflect the Holy trinity as we are Gods on earth, not God but Gods, we are his body on earth, or meant to be anyway.

disclaimer: " I could be wrong."

 

Onward Christian Souls.

God iz Good!

Edited June 2, 2016 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

And also the brain damage is accentuated now days by various screens that put out the same photons as the sun. There are various screens you can purchase over the net for televisions, computers and mobile phones that block or reduce the photons. Supposedly. I doubt we can rise up and turn the world grey unless we switch off all screens, or use the photon shields and be very wise about how long we look at a screen for and how often we are using screens. Plus the entertainment Gods run this ish now and that's not Christianity really now is it, even if there where no photons or brain shrinkage from moving pictures? The majority of our spare time outside of religious stuff must be spent with the brethren in Jesus name or evangelizing the world, and with that scripture states we must mix our wine with water, this is a literal thing but also a spiritual thing, the body of Christ is water and the world is wine/poison, and the religious people of Jesus days mixed there wine with 2 parts water and one part wine, so more sheep less bears and other wild beasts, lol.

 

Luv yuz.

GodblesS.

As far as i'm aware cartoons don't cause the brain shrinkage, though the screen will still project photons. It has something to do with peripheral vision, when reality is put on a screen in the form of moving pictures the brain gets confused as the vision is not peripheral.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Though of course religious stuff is cool and necessary but it can not save us. Only love saves, and if you are saved than you will do the religious stuff.

[little2add]

Stop all the hypocrisy ( nothing personal, Dust). I and speak up.   It seams that a lot of good Catholics look the other way to advoid being rude or sounding mean spirited 

"Looking the other way" and "turn the other cheek" are not the same.   

 

[Anomaly]

I see no issue whatsoever with judging people and actions.  If you aren't judging, you're probably already an idiot...

 

It's  the penalty phase; determining and carrying out the punishmen, where the trouble lies.

[beatitude]

I think there is a big difference between judging a person and judging an action.

You can say that a certain behaviour is wrong. The problem comes when we start speculating on the reasons for that behaviour and making unkind assumptions. When this topic comes up, I always think back to a maths teacher I had when I was thirteen. She was a strict teacher, but I could see that she was good at her job, and I liked her. But she didn't think much of me. We were divided into levels for maths, according to our ability, and this was lowest of five levels. This teacher felt that I was only in her class because I was lazy. I would often really struggle to understand an instruction, but over time I grew scared to ask for clarification, because she would make some sarcastic remark when I put my hand up. I would forget my homework a lot and she would take this to mean I hadn't done any. Once I yawned in class, and she asked, "Sorry, beatitude, am I boring you?" I replied politely, "Yes, miss." I am diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome and I tend to take questions literally. At that age I was much more literal than I am now. When she punished me for insolence I was near tears because I didn't understand what I'd done wrong - as I saw it, I'd been asked a question and I'd answered truthfully. I saw that she was fairer with the other children, and I was upset that she wasn't the same with me. She would never explain my mistakes to me properly and I got really scared of that class, because of the things she'd say in front of the others. But over time I realised that it wasn't because she didn't like me, it was because she didn't understand me. I used to remind myself of that and try to judge her by how she acted with other struggling students in class, reminding myself that I didn't understand lots of people and I could hardly get angry with her if she failed to understand just one. When it came to myself, I would acknowledge that her behaviour to me wasn't fair, but I tried hard not to go beyond judging the behaviour. I could have just told myself she was probably being hard on me because she was a nasty mean-spirited person, but I had no proof of that and it seemed best to take the most charitable explanation.

The following year I was assessed by a team of specialists, given an MRI scan, and correctly diagnosed with a neurological disorder. I began to receive the appropriate help, which meant that school was no longer a struggle for me, not when people realised why I struggled with certain basic things and they made adjustments for me in class. This teacher was no longer my teacher. I didn't have anything to do with her again until I graduated from high school, when we had a prize ceremony at which I was presented with an award for effort. My old maths teacher was the one responsible for organising the prizewinners into a line to go on the stage, and when I went up, she stopped me very briefly and shook my hand and smiled. She didn't do that with any of the others in front of me. I knew she would have heard about my neuro problems, as all the staff were made aware, and that this was probably her way of saying sorry. I left school that day and I've never spoken to her since, but I felt we parted with mutual understanding. I learned from her how to distinguish between a person and their behaviour, and hopefully she learned a bit from me about not leaping to conclusions.

Since then I have tried to take the same approach. It's easy to spot when someone has done something wrong, but we should be extremely cautious about saying why they've done it.

[little2add]

7 hours ago, Anomaly said:

  If you aren't judging, you're probably already an idiot...

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[Anomaly]

18 minutes ago, little2add said:

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le sigh  

 

[little2add]

10 minutes ago, Anomaly said:

le sigh  

 

le purr 

[Norseman82]

On Wednesday, June 01, 2016 at 5:46 PM, dUSt said:

How do we stop it?

Teach all nuns how to wield rulers like kali sticks.

[xSilverPhinx]

On 6/1/2016 at 7:46 PM, dUSt said:

Don't judge me.

I see this phrase, or some variation of this philosophy, used everywhere. It seems like kids use it nowadays to justify any and every type of behavior. Moral relativism in all of it's false glory, manifested in the minds of our youth.

How do we stop it?

I see a lot of religious people of various faiths use that phrase too, stating that only their gods can judge them... 

[little2add]

A good catholic school education

 

Edited June 3, 2016 by little2add

[dUSt]

5 minutes ago, little2add said:

A good catholic school education

 

"Good" is the key word here. It's super easy to find a catholic school education--but when you put that qualifier in front of it, it get's really hard to find.

[little2add]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujxDA9VsQG4

 

Filthy Mouths & Bad Attitudes - The Blues Brothers (

 

[little2add]

I attended catholic grade school  (St Mary's) way back in the 60's

nuns and brothers ran the program 

it was a good catholic school 

Life was more civilized (back)  then

Edited June 4, 2016 by little2add

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

20 minutes ago, little2add said:

I attended catholic grade school  (St Mary's) way back in the 60's

nuns and brothers ran the program 

it was a good catholic school 

Life was more civilized (back)  then

back than huh? What is different between now and back then? Why have we all become pagan in certain senses to different degrees? What could it be?

another thing i just thought of isn't saying someone is judging you judging them. lol. I have people say to me don't get upset when i get passionate about something in my speaking, what the hell, lol, let go ya'll who gives a what, if someone raises there voice or not as long as there not screaming or not, and who cares if someone is judging you, whingy wa wahs the world has turned into unfortunately me inclusive far to often, the problem is those who say don't judge me do plenty of judging themselves. Just tell em all love covers a multitude of sins. Roll with tha punches ya'll, turn the other cheek, but what we must understand is that these people in general are not christians or christians that don't have the understanding, knowledge and wisdom to follow the way indefinitely, and have not the power to do so whether one is judging or not, so if we judge them for judging us for judging then all we are doing is judging, lol. Don't hate your haterz or your a hater, no doubt.  Something like dat anywayz. 

Young men and woman of God rise up!

God is Good, God iz Love.

Onward Christian souls.

[Socrates]

If those saying "don't judge" are professed Christians, and claim that judging nothing as wrong is "following Jesus,"  I'd direct them towards actually reading the Bible.  "Judge not lest ye be judged yourself"  (Matt. 7) is probably the most mis-used Bible quote of our times.  The Church has traditionally taught that Christ was condemning rash judgment (assuming evil intent on the part of others without knowing the souls of others) and hypocrisy.  He was not saying that no actions should be judged objectively wrong.  in the gospels, Jesus condemned many actions as wrong (just read the Sermon on the Mount), and the Bible is full of judgments of things as wrong.  This mi-use of "don't judge" is pulling a single passage out of context and misinterpreting it, while blatantly ignoring much of the rest of Scripture.

 

Also, you can demonstrate their own probable inconsistency.  Most "non-judgmental" liberals are in reality very selective about who and what should not be judged.  Should we not Hitler's his holocaust of the Jews to be wrong and evil?  Slavery?  Racism?  Sexism? (or the ultimate modern sin, homophobic bigotry?)  And most "non-judgmental" "tolerant" liberals tend to be extremely quick to judge and intolerant of persons whose politics they oppose.

Of course, ultimately, good moral education is what is needed, and especially for those who profess moral truth to "walk the walk" and "practice what we preach."  Christians will never succeed in changing the culture if we are seen as simply finger-wagging hypocrites.