Mass

[onegurlarmy1120]

no..i didn't receive communion (i went up and put my arms across my chest). i was there solely for a learning experience however i'm not entirely sure what you mean by "receiving the Eucharist" but i'm pretty sure i didn't do it

[phatcatholic]

by "receiving the Eucharist" we mean eating the bread and/or drinking the wine--both of which, in substance, are the body and blood of Jesus Christ

[onegurlarmy1120]

thanks for clearing that up
yeah i didn't do that

[Aloysius]

ok good

I'd never go around doing something to your Buddha statue, so it seems a fair trade-off that you don't receive our Lord

pAx

[Archbishop 10-K]

[quote name='onegurlarmy1120' date='Jun 24 2004, 12:45 AM'] what does that mean? [/quote]
When the priest transforms the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ.

[Jake Huether]

[quote name='onegurlarmy1120' date='Jun 24 2004, 12:25 AM'] thanks for clearing that up
yeah i didn't do that [/quote]
I am so amaized at your peace and openness and coolness.

What Archbishop 10-K meant by "performs a sacrifice, during the Consecration of the Eucharist." is this.

We believe that when the Priest says, "This is my Body... This is my Blood" (you may remember this - while he holds up the bread and wine), the bread and wine, although retaining their accidents (their physical features) become, in substance, the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. Therefore, since the Priest re-presents the same Jesus Christ who was crucified, died, and resurrected, it is truly a sacrifice.

It's a lot to think about. But don't struggle too much with these theological "details". They are the summit of our faith, indeed. I don't want to at all downplay their importance. But I would get the major stumbling blocks out of the way before you start to chip at the iceburg.

May I ask: How familiar are you with the Christian faith? Actually, how familiar with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, are you?

I suppose it would be good to know a little more about where you are at in your faith journey.

Seriously. Some of the details may turn you off before you even get your feet wet. You may want to learn more about our God and some of the more general things...

I don't know... maybe I'm just blabbering.

Anywho. Thanks for coming to this Phorum! Stick around and welcome to the Phamily!

[Jake Huether]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='Jun 24 2004, 12:33 AM'] ok good

I'd never go around doing something to your Buddha statue, so it seems a fair trade-off that you don't receive our Lord

pAx [/quote]
Al,

No offense, but reading this post. If I was a Buddhist, I would be pretty offended.

It's kinda harsh.

I mean, you could have fluffed it up a bit and got the same intent accross. We don't want to send away any peeps who want to learn.

I know you didn't mean to... But if I were to not know you and read that I might take it as...

"I'm not messing with your religion so don't mess with ours." Of course onegurlarmy1120 can recieve our Lord. She can pray to our Lord and she can ask Him into her heart. Our Lord wishes people to come to Him. But she would only need to know that she cannot recieve (eat and drink) Him in the Eucharist, a jesture which is reserved for those who are expressing Communion with the Church through Christ.

I hope that you can see this...

Here's a good way of saying it.


"ok good

That was very nice of you to consider the sacredness of our belief in the Presence of Christ in the Eucharist."


Anyway. I know it wasn't your intent. I don't even know how onegurlarmy1120 took it. But it was just my own observation... Maybe I'm the one with issues. LOL.

[Archbishop 10-K]

Allow me to show the effect in illustration.

[img]http://uvoc.org/Sacrifice_of_the_Mass.jpg[/img]


This is from the Tridentine (Traditional Latin) rite, one where the priest faces the altar instead of the congregation. But, the effect is the same regardless of which direction the priest is facing.

[Jake Huether]

[quote name='Archbishop 10-K' date='Jun 24 2004, 09:56 AM'] Allow me to show the effect in illustration.

[img]http://uvoc.org/Sacrifice_of_the_Mass.jpg[/img]


This is from the Tridentine (Traditional Latin) rite, one where the priest faces the altar instead of the congregation. But, the effect is the same regardless of which direction the priest is facing. [/quote]
Ahhh! I love that picture. Thanks for posting it. A picture is truly worth 1000 words (at least).

God bless you.

[Aloysius]

ppl get offended too easily

i was just mentioning that for her to receive the eucharist would be to us as if i smashed one of her statues or something.

if someone gets offended by that simple comment, i'm sorry, but it's not a bad analogy in my opinion.

pAx

[Hananiah]

Better analogy: I saw a documentaary once where Buddhist monks made an elabortate pattern by painting on some sand, then a little while later they destroyed it by mixing the sand, I believe to symbolize the impermanence o the earth. Her recieving Communion would be like some loud obnoxious American comming into the monastery and destroying the pattern himself.