Out of the closet

[xSilverPhinx]

I'm curious to know which is worse to you folks, being an atheist or a homosexual?

If your child came to you and said, "Dad, mom, we need to talk", what would be your worst fear in this context? 

[NadaTeTurbe]

None. My whole family is atheist, so... My worst fear would be : "Mom, I am gay/atheist/whatever, but I was too afraid of you to tell you." My parents are amazing, but strict and close-minded, and I can't be honest with them. If one day I have children, I want trust between us. 

[Guest]

Atheist. Being a homosexual isn't a sin in and of itself. Only the sexual acts are where the sin is. An atheist especially a militant atheist is condemning themselves to hell if they actively reject God and influence others to reject God.

Edited June 14, 2016 by Guest

[KnightofChrist]

You folks? Humm

Neither. Would I like to hear either one or the other, no. Both are a rejection of God in some manner. I would be concerned with the welfare of their soul. But I would never be afraid to hear my child to tell me how they feel. 

I would fear hearing my child wanted to do physical harm to themselves or others. Because that would actually be cause for fear.

[xSilverPhinx]

3 minutes ago, KnightofChrist said:

You folks? Humm

Neither. Would I like to hear either one or the other, no. Both are a rejection of God in some manner. I would be concerned with the welfare of their soul. But I would never be afraid to hear my child to tell me how they feel. 

I would fear hearing my child wanted to do physical harm to themselves or others. Because that would actually be cause for fear.

Would you have preferred "you Catholics"? 

How is wanting to physically harm themselves different from spiritually harm themselves in your perspective? Wouldn't embracing atheism or having any views that diverge from the official doctrine be enough to cause that kind of self harm?

13 minutes ago, Josh said:

Atheist. Being a homosexual isn't a sin in and of itself. Only the sexual acts are where the sin is. An atheist especially a militant atheist is condemning themselves to hell if they actively reject God and influence others to reject God.

I reject all gods, not just yours. Does that mean I'm going to all hells? Is there some weird quantum thing going on in the afterlife? The world of religion is bigger than Catholicism or even Christianity for that matter. 

Though I do like Anubis, he looks interesting. 

26 minutes ago, NadaTeTurbe said:

None. My whole family is atheist, so... My worst fear would be : "Mom, I am gay/atheist/whatever, but I was too afraid of you to tell you." My parents are amazing, but strict and close-minded, and I can't be honest with them. If one day I have children, I want trust between us. 

That smells of elderberries. My mother is a believer but I don't talk to her about religion much, it never ends well.  

 

[Guest]

If you reject God and choose not to believe in him and die in that state yes you will be in hell for all of eternity.

[little2add]

both lifestyles are okay and acceptable, but my kid ever decided to become a democrat and died in that state he or she will be in hell for all of eternity

so...

Edited June 14, 2016 by little2add

[xSilverPhinx]

4 minutes ago, Josh said:

If you reject God and choose not to believe in him and die in that state yes you will be in hell for all of eternity.

All hells? 

[Guest]

[xSilverPhinx]

That's a nice quote, it clearly and succinctly demonizes people who diverge in their views very nicely. 

[Guest]

[xSilverPhinx]

So now atheists are wicked? I envy such black and white thinking. Really. 

[Guest]

Not all atheists are wicked. But I will bet anything all wicked atheists are in hell.

[xSilverPhinx]

And what does "wicked" mean to you? 

[Guest]

One example would be what that Orlando Muslim just did who worshiped allah (satan)

[xSilverPhinx]

Well that we can agree on. 

 

(Except for the last part, I don't believe in Allah or Satan either.)

[Guest]

They're one.

[Credo in Deum]

Veganism. 

[xSilverPhinx]

6 minutes ago, Credo in Deum said:

Veganism. 

Poor vegans... 

[Maggyie]

I would say homosexual. Because you can pray for an atheist to stop being an atheist or work with them in it, and it's possible they will believe. With homosexuality, it's a lifetime cross. It's not sinful to be gay but I wouldn't want my child to have to endure what gay people have to go through. I guess from a theological perspective I'm all wrong, since an atheist can't have the sacraments and a gay person can. I should want my child to have the sacraments.