PhuturePriest Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 They take up my valuable Skyrim/Catholic Answers time, and I, for one, will not tolerate it. I have a midterm tomorrow for a class called Understanding the Bible. It requires remembrance of specific facts. I am not a rememberer of specific facts.
Amppax Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 48 minutes ago, PhuturePriest said: They take up my valuable Skyrim/Catholic Answers time, and I, for one, will not tolerate it. I have a midterm tomorrow for a class called Understanding the Bible. It requires remembrance of specific facts. I am not a rememberer of specific facts. When in doubt, the answer is Jesus. If it's Old Testament; Abraham, Moses, or David.
LittleWaySoul Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 50 minutes ago, PhuturePriest said: They take up my valuable Skyrim/Catholic Answers time, and I, for one, will not tolerate it. I have a midterm tomorrow for a class called Understanding the Bible. It requires remembrance of specific facts. I am not a rememberer of specific facts. You're betraying us for them?!?11
Quasar Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 My tips for tomorrow and every test thereafter: 1. Remember that a test is just a game. No matter your test score, no one gets sick or dies. It's just a fiction and a game. 2. Like any game worth playing, it's worth playing well. 3. Adopt an attitude of amusement at how your brain operates. Notice all of the random facts it does remember, or the strange ways it likes to play with information. Have fun with it tomorrow. It's all there for you, in your brains.
Amppax Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, Quasar said: Have fun with it tomorrow. It's all there for you, in your brains. ^This. If there's one thing I know, it's that good students (and I believe that you are one) tend to underestimate how much they know going into tests.
Gabriela Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Remember this: The American Catholic Church is so desperate for priests that you could nearly flunk out and they'd still ordain you. So you know, no pressure.
Luigi Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Horrid? HORRID? No. Unacceptable. We will accept (in increasing order of intensity): "Midterms are a bear" "Midterms are the bane of my existence" "Midterms will be the death of me" "Midterms are killing me" or "Midterms are the spawn of Satan." But we will not accept HORRID (unless you can slip into the midterm as a misspelling for Mount Horeb).
PhuturePriest Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 5 hours ago, Luigi said: Horrid? HORRID? No. Unacceptable. We will accept (in increasing order of intensity): "Midterms are a bear" "Midterms are the bane of my existence" "Midterms will be the death of me" "Midterms are killing me" or "Midterms are the spawn of Satan." But we will not accept HORRID (unless you can slip into the midterm as a misspelling for Mount Horeb). This reminds me: the Elohist author refers to "Mount Horeb", as opposed to the Yawist's Mount Sinai. 6 hours ago, LittleWaySoul said: You're betraying us for them?!?11 I listen to Catholic Answers Live when I play Skyrim. Seminary has not yet distorted my brain enough that I would be so bored as to go on their forums. 6 hours ago, Amppax said: When in doubt, the answer is Jesus. If it's Old Testament; Abraham, Moses, or David. It's Old Testament, but the problem is he's asking us what the theological themes of each book are (with examples) and we need to remember the "major" characters, some of whom are quite obscure. I also have to memorize the "Documentary Hypothesis", which I detest and for whatever reason cannot remember for the life of me.
Amppax Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 2 hours ago, PhuturePriest said: It's Old Testament, but the problem is he's asking us what the theological themes of each book are (with examples) and we need to remember the "major" characters, some of whom are quite obscure. I also have to memorize the "Documentary Hypothesis", which I detest and for whatever reason cannot remember for the life of me. JEDP! JEDP! JEDP! JEDP!
HopefulHeart Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I recently had a quiz about this material. Definitely keep these folks in order: Abram/Abraham (married to Sarai/Sarah) Isaac (married to Rebekah) Esau and Jacob/Israel (had twelve sons and one daughter with Leah, Rachel, and their two maids) Joseph (son of Jacob and Rachel) was the father of Ephraim and Manasseh. Also remember JEDP. Genesis 1 is probably from the Priestly source, and Genesis 2 is likely from the J, or Yahwist, source.
LittleWaySoul Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 4 hours ago, PhuturePriest said: I listen to Catholic Answers Live when I play Skyrim. Seminary has not yet distorted my brain enough that I would be so bored as to go on their forums. Ha, I was gonna say.
MIKolbe Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 misread the topic phonetically as hemorrhoid. pray for me.
PhuturePriest Posted October 21, 2016 Author Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Wasn't as bad as I predicted. There wasn't really anything I was told by him to prepare for (mainly the themes of each book) which was slightly annoying, but I think I definitely passed, and dare I predict something in the 80+ range. Edited October 21, 2016 by PhuturePriest
Gabriela Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 On 10/20/2016 at 11:14 PM, PhuturePriest said: dare I predict something in the 80+ range. Yeah. Careful about that, brother: "But of that score and grade no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone."
PhuturePriest Posted October 22, 2016 Author Posted October 22, 2016 11 hours ago, Gabriela said: Yeah. Careful about that, brother: "But of that score and grade no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone." I never tell people my grades. That was just a guess of how well I think I did, which can be significantly different from reality.
WhiteLily Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) To be honest, I would not want a parish priest who basically flunked out of seminary with all his classes. Yes, some have a better gift of study, but it's not enough to be a holy priest. He must be holy and learned and continue to study after he is ordained. It's getting old going to a parish where the priest is not learned and does not proclaim the Truth. We need to pray for all our priests and seminarians - that they may be holy and learned. Otherwise, if we the lay faithful have to continuously correct our Pastors (out of charity), many more people are going to lose respect for priests and leave the Church or error is going to continue to spread. I will pray for you that you may retain all you need to pass your exams. Edited October 26, 2016 by WhiteLily
PhuturePriest Posted October 27, 2016 Author Posted October 27, 2016 4 hours ago, WhiteLily said: To be honest, I would not want a parish priest who basically flunked out of seminary with all his classes. Yes, some have a better gift of study, but it's not enough to be a holy priest. He must be holy and learned and continue to study after he is ordained. It's getting old going to a parish where the priest is not learned and does not proclaim the Truth. We need to pray for all our priests and seminarians - that they may be holy and learned. Otherwise, if we the lay faithful have to continuously correct our Pastors (out of charity), many more people are going to lose respect for priests and leave the Church or error is going to continue to spread. I will pray for you that you may retain all you need to pass your exams. I understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure where this is coming from. Did anyone say education wasn't important for priests? Under your criteria, I am afraid you would miss out on Saint John Vianney as your priest, whom flunked out of seminary once and almost did twice. Writing good essays and remembering arbitrary facts about the Iliad does not a holy and wise priest make. Besides, what you are describing is not an uneducated priest, but a badly catechized one. Seminary is actually centered around what are called the Four Pillars -- spiritual, pastoral, human, and intellectual. All must be balanced with one another, and none of them are to be given special preference or emphasis. We're actually told to prioritize our school work in accordance with the Four Pillars, which often means we aren't able to get all of our reading done.
Gabriela Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 55 minutes ago, PhuturePriest said: I understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure where this is coming from. Did anyone say education wasn't important for priests? Under your criteria, I am afraid you would miss out on Saint John Vianney as your priest, whom flunked out of seminary once and almost did twice. Writing good essays and remembering arbitrary facts about the Iliad does not a holy and wise priest make. Besides, what you are describing is not an uneducated priest, but a badly catechized one. Seminary is actually centered around what are called the Four Pillars -- spiritual, pastoral, human, and intellectual. All must be balanced with one another, and none of them are to be given special preference or emphasis. We're actually told to prioritize our school work in accordance with the Four Pillars, which often means we aren't able to get all of our reading done.
Jack4 Posted November 3, 2016 Posted November 3, 2016 On 10/27/2016 at 5:44 AM, PhuturePriest said: On 10/27/2016 at 1:19 AM, WhiteLily said: To be honest, I would not want a parish priest who basically flunked out of seminary with all his classes. Yes, some have a better gift of study, but it's not enough to be a holy priest. He must be holy and learned and continue to study after he is ordained. It's getting old going to a parish where the priest is not learned and does not proclaim the Truth. We need to pray for all our priests and seminarians - that they may be holy and learned. Otherwise, if we the lay faithful have to continuously correct our Pastors (out of charity), many more people are going to lose respect for priests and leave the Church or error is going to continue to spread. I will pray for you that you may retain all you need to pass your exams. I understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure where this is coming from. Did anyone say education wasn't important for priests? Under your criteria, I am afraid you would miss out on Saint John Vianney as your priest, whom flunked out of seminary once and almost did twice. Writing good essays and remembering arbitrary facts about the Iliad does not a holy and wise priest make. Besides, what you are describing is not an uneducated priest, but a badly catechized one. Seminary is actually centered around what are called the Four Pillars -- spiritual, pastoral, human, and intellectual. All must be balanced with one another, and none of them are to be given special preference or emphasis. We're actually told to prioritize our school work in accordance with the Four Pillars, which often means we aren't able to get all of our reading done. I second this. A priest who doesn't know that Jesus died is one thing, one who can't remember when the first Olympics was held is another.
WhiteLily Posted November 3, 2016 Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) I wasn't talking about not finishing reading, and not so much catechesis, but a comment (joke) someone made about ordaining men or just barely pass seminary. In my archdiocese, I take this very seriously because men are ordained without proper formation and things fall in the cracks - big time. If one can not relate to people or who have physiological problems, they are ordained because "we need priests". This is a terrible issue. Yes, I know the story of St. John Vianney. I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but priests are being ordained who have psychological problems and they are not addressed. Therefore, in their preaching, they do not preach the truth. Even if what they at is 99% true and 1% lie, it's still a lie. I should have elaborated this before, but I have had to talk to many priests about boundary issues because they didn't know how to relate to women. Also, in their preaching, what they shared wasn't accurate and truth was violated so in charity, I went to talk to them. This is a much deeper issue, especially for someone who was abused by a priest due to boundary violations/etc. hope what I said makes sense. Edited November 3, 2016 by WhiteLily
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