Veni Sponsa Christi Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 Here is another consecration of one of my friends http://poellau.graz-seckau.at/fotos-aktuell?m=16544&d=jungfrauenweihe-von-monika-hacker-in-poellauberg&jump=572771#.WJcEsn-KK98
MiserereMeiDeus Posted February 5, 2017 Author Posted February 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Veni Sponsa Christi said: Here is another consecration of one of my friends http://poellau.graz-seckau.at/fotos-aktuell?m=16544&d=jungfrauenweihe-von-monika-hacker-in-poellauberg&jump=572771#.WJcEsn-KK98 Well I'm officially in love with the churches in Germany! (I might be wrong because I didn't read that anywhere, but I'm guessing these are in Germany.) Beautiful, and the vestments the priests are wearing. I noticed that the veil and white dress she was wearing, and also in the other video, that it looks like a habit. Do CV in Germany wear that everyday as a sign? Or maybe it's just for that day. I've heard from other CV that some dioceses have dress codes for CV.
Sponsa-Christi Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 2 hours ago, MiserereMeiDeus said: Well I'm officially in love with the churches in Germany! (I might be wrong because I didn't read that anywhere, but I'm guessing these are in Germany.) Beautiful, and the vestments the priests are wearing. I noticed that the veil and white dress she was wearing, and also in the other video, that it looks like a habit. Do CV in Germany wear that everyday as a sign? Or maybe it's just for that day. I've heard from other CV that some dioceses have dress codes for CV. Some CVs in Central and Eastern Europe do, but it's not all of Germany that does this. I believe there is one diocese in France where the CVs there were a veil I think all the time, but with just modest secular clothes. In some places CVs have special garb that they wear on special occasions.
NadaTeTurbe Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 44 minutes ago, Sponsa-Christi said: Some CVs in Central and Eastern Europe do, but it's not all of Germany that does this. I believe there is one diocese in France where the CVs there were a veil I think all the time, but with just modest secular clothes. In some places CVs have special garb that they wear on special occasions. The CV in France all have a scarf with a little lamp
sr.christinaosf Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 Have you read Fr. Dubay's book? https://ourfranciscanfiat.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/book-review-and-you-are-christs/
MiserereMeiDeus Posted February 6, 2017 Author Posted February 6, 2017 14 hours ago, sr.christinaosf said: Have you read Fr. Dubay's book? https://ourfranciscanfiat.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/book-review-and-you-are-christs/ Yes I do have it, thank you. It's the one I take to work with me to read at break time.
MiserereMeiDeus Posted February 10, 2017 Author Posted February 10, 2017 I found the video on Vimeo for the woman who just made her consecration in PA. I tried posting the link but it wouldn't let me submit. However, if you find it watch it if you can. It's beautiful. Found this little bit about the Consecration ceremony however. "Asked about their (the consecrated virgins in attendance) all being technically married to the same man, one of the consecrated virgins smiled and said consecrated virgins experience no jealousy in competing for Jesus’ affection. “There’s room for all of us, because it’s so awesome,” she said, laughing. During the ceremony, Settle lay face down on the floor of the basilica, motionless. A young man in cream-colored robes began a slow recitation: “Lord have mercy.” The congregation chorused back, “Christ have mercy.” “St. Michael,” the man intoned, commencing a litany of saints. After several minutes of the invocation of saints, Settle rose. Chaput, wearing green and white robes, told the assembled, “May nothing tarnish the glory of perfect virginity.”
MiserereMeiDeus Posted February 13, 2017 Author Posted February 13, 2017 I am going to try posting the link again and see if it works without trying to put the video directly on here: https://vimeo.com/202495550 I talked to one of the priests at my parish and I was thrilled to find out that they do have a program for the consecrated virginity. I'm going to talk to the parish priest this weekend and hopefully be able to fill out the paper work that needs to be sent to the Bishop, and Lord willing be accepted as a candidate.
Therese1895 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 I was wondering- are there any saints who were consecrated virgins? I was thinking about it the other day, and couldn't think of any. I guess that their canonization process would be less likely to occur, however, as they wouldn't have an order to promulgate it.
LittleDiana Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 33 minutes ago, Therese1895 said: I was wondering- are there any saints who were consecrated virgins? I was thinking about it the other day, and couldn't think of any. I guess that their canonization process would be less likely to occur, however, as they wouldn't have an order to promulgate it. Well, if you think about it, all the holy virgins of the first centuries of the Church (St. Agnes, St. Agatha, St. Cecilia, St. Anastasia, St. Catherine of Alexandria...) were consecrated virgins.
Therese1895 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, LittleDiana said: Well, if you think about it, all the holy virgins of the first centuries of the Church (St. Agnes, St. Agatha, St. Cecilia, St. Anastasia, St. Catherine of Alexandria...) were consecrated virgins. Oh right! Would you also happen to know of any more modern examples? Of course, with patronesses like our early 'Church Mothers,' who needs more?
LittleDiana Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 What happened is that with the apparition of communities of nuns, the Consecration of Virgins fell into oblivion (I think it wasn't officially supressed, but I don't know for certain). It was fully restored by Pope Paul VI in the seventies. That's why you can't find canonized consecrated virgins who had lived in these last centuries.
Therese1895 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Oh, right! I guess I was using consecrated virgin also in a broad sense as well, maybe a private vow of chastity, etc. Just interested- thank you!
MiserereMeiDeus Posted March 9, 2017 Author Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Therese1895 said: I was wondering- are there any saints who were consecrated virgins? I was thinking about it the other day, and couldn't think of any. I guess that their canonization process would be less likely to occur, however, as they wouldn't have an order to promulgate it. Here is a list from the Sponsa Christi blog: http://sponsa-christi.blogspot.com/2009/11/consecrated-virgin-saints-of-early.html These are from the early Church, so definitely not modern. She may have the answer to that though, or maybe some more searching around the blog it could be found. It would be nice to know though about modern saints that were consecrated. I know the Benedictine nuns used the Rite at their final professions, but that fell out of practice many, many years ago. So some Benedictine nuns that have been canonized could have been consecrated virgins as well. Some women saints who were not in religious communities but remained virgins in the world and lived a spousal relationship with Our Lord you will see that for their memorial in the Divine Office and the Mass they will be referred to as virgin, but they didn't receive the consecration. I'm still learning about this vocation myself. I have been in contact with consecrated virgins and that has been very helpful. As I learn more I find a lot of Carmelite spirituality. A lot of what is important to a Carmelite is also important to the CV such as the role of Mary our Blessed Mother, praying and sacrificing for priests, and praying the Liturgy of The Hours. It's a shame that not much is mentioned about this vocation, or at least in my experience. Being the Bride of Christ, an image of His Church in the world seems so needed in our world today. Our Lord still calls women to this type of spousal relationship with Himself, but many may not know much about it. However, at the same time He somehow will make it known if she keeps searching for Him. Edited March 9, 2017 by MiserereMeiDeus Spelling
Therese1895 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, MiserereMeiDeus said: Here is a list from the Sponsa Christi blog: http://sponsa-christi.blogspot.com/2009/11/consecrated-virgin-saints-of-early.html I'm still learning about this vocation myself. I have been in contact with consecrated virgins and that has been very helpful. As I learn more I find a lot of Carmelite spirituality. A lot of what is important to a Carmelite is also important to the CV such as the role of Mary our Blessed Mother, praying and sacrificing for priests, and praying the Liturgy of The Hours. It's a shame that not much is talked mentioned about this vocation. Being the Bride of Christ, an image of His Church in the world seems so needed in our world today. Our Lord still calls women to this type of spousal relationship with Himself, but many may not know much about it. However, at the same time He somehow will make it known if she keeps searching for Him. !Dios se lo pague! I love your comparison to Carmel! It's so beautiful as such a truly humble and hidden vocation!
MiserereMeiDeus Posted March 9, 2017 Author Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Therese1895 said: !Dios se lo pague! I love your comparison to Carmel! It's so beautiful as such a truly humble and hidden vocation! I knew you in particular would like that! And it's also a hidden and humble vocation. Not in a cloister, but in the world she is still hidden in Him. "To be in the world, but not part of it." An update: please to all, remember me in your prayers and sacrifices. I took my first official step in discerning the consecrated virginity vocation. I met with my parish priest and was thrilled to find out that he is familiar with this vocation as he has been the spiritual director to two consecrated virgins before. He is supportive of me and my next step will be to contact the diocese vocation director to set up a meeting with the Bishop to talk with him. I haven't made this contact yet, but it will be sometime in the near future. Edited March 9, 2017 by MiserereMeiDeus Added on.
Therese1895 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, MiserereMeiDeus said: I knew you in particular would like that! And it's also a hidden and humble vocation. Not in a cloister, but in the world she is still hidden in Him. Yes! Maybe someday?... at the moment I'm just making myself holy as a student and not trying to "discern" but just grow holier! But a wonderful and understate vocation to keep in mind!
MiserereMeiDeus Posted March 9, 2017 Author Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Therese1895 said: Yes! Maybe someday?... at the moment I'm just making myself holy as a student and not trying to "discern" but just grow holier! But a wonderful and understate vocation to keep in mind! Definitely one to keep in mind. You reminded me of something that a Christian friend of mine at work shared with me. It was a meditation for the day on a website. It talked about living with and for God in the present wherever we are and, "if you can't serve God well where you are now, you wouldn't serve God well anywhere." That was a great reminder when some days my mind wanders and I start to imagine doing something else or being somewhere else, but His grace is sufficient for the day to get through those times.
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