kg94 Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Hi, I'm just wondering if there is some sort of directory on Carmelite Nuns in Europe? I'm just having a look around for now. Not sure whether I'll contact any at this stage yet. Thanks.
truthfinder Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 http://www.carmelitaniscalzi.com/en/contacts/nuns/ is typically the website that lists all discalced carmelites in the world - but it's under construction right now.
Graciela Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Since the Discalced Carmelite Order's address book is under construction (and has been so for quite a time), here are a couple sites with addresses for Discalced Carmelites by country: France http://www.carmel.asso.fr/Adresses-des-Monasteres-de-Carmelites.html Ireland http://carmelitesisters.ie/ UK http://carmelitenuns.uk/ Also, the Order of Carmelites (Calced Carmelites) has a web site with a working directory of all their communities worldwide http://ocarm.org/en/ (this link is for the English language version). Hope this is somewhat helpful. Graciela
FrauMolly Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 For Germany you can look under orden-online.de. They list some Discalced Carmelite Communities with homepage.
graciandelamadrededios Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 5 hours ago, kg94 said: Hi, I'm just wondering if there is some sort of directory on Carmelite Nuns in Europe? I'm just having a look around for now. Not sure whether I'll contact any at this stage yet. Thanks. Which part of Europe do you want to get the list of monasteries? I might have compiled it somewhere, particularly the 1990 Carmels.
Therese1895 Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 There's a wonderful Carmel in Alençon. They say the Latin Mass and have 1990 Constitutions. They have been in contact with the FSSP and the JMJ Carmels and may soon be starting (if they haven't already) to say the 1938 Carmelite rite breviary instead of the Latin one that they have been saying. Highly recommended! Also all of (Saint) Mother Maravillas' Carmels are incredible!!! They really fought to hold onto the traditions and to get the same Constitution that OHM wrote when they were wanting to change. (The only changes that the 1990 had is that some references to Canon Law are updated and it is now optional to pray for the health of King Philip of Spain ) Look up her life to find them- Avila, Madrid, etc.
Charbel Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 This page is working for the world addresses: http://www.ocd.pcn.net/ocd/index.htm Just scroll down and you can see Nuns A) By Nation or B) By Continents Also these only have 1 Carmelite monastery per country (and have a working website) so I'll leave the links for easier access: The one in Iceland: http://www.karmel.is/eng/index.html Norway: http://karmel.katolsk.no/home-en-gb/ Sweden: http://karmel.se/ Denmark: http://www.karmel.dk/
kg94 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Posted February 1, 2017 I'm an EU citizen, so I'm exploring what monasteries are in the EU, though my main language of communication is English, so I am looking for English speaking communities... though I am open to the possibility to going to non-English communities, though I would have to brush up on my other languages. Thanks for all of your help
Chiquitunga Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On January 30, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Therese1895 said: There's a wonderful Carmel in Alençon. They say the Latin Mass and have 1990 Constitutions. They have been in contact with the FSSP and the JMJ Carmels and may soon be starting (if they haven't already) to say the 1938 Carmelite rite breviary instead of the Latin one that they have been saying. Highly recommended! Also all of (Saint) Mother Maravillas' Carmels are incredible!!! They really fought to hold onto the traditions and to get the same Constitution that OHM wrote when they were wanting to change. (The only changes that the 1990 had is that some references to Canon Law are updated and it is now optional to pray for the health of King Philip of Spain ) Look up her life to find them- Avila, Madrid, etc. I was over there last year and was able to visit Alencon Carmel. They make so many beautiful sacramentals, etc., http://carmel-alencon.fr (new website I believe) I received the grace to visit the tomb of Madre Maravillas too, and some Carmels she founded. I almost do not want to post about it though, because I feel a little too spoiled to have gone... Our Lord knows I really needed the graces and encouragement from that trip! "Lo que Dios quiera, como Dios quiera, cuando Dios quiera!" On February 1, 2017 at 1:38 AM, kg94 said: I'm an EU citizen, so I'm exploring what monasteries are in the EU, though my main language of communication is English, so I am looking for English speaking communities... though I am open to the possibility to going to non-English communities, though I would have to brush up on my other languages. Thanks for all of your help You may be interested in this Carmel, http://www.kirkedge.org.uk
NadaTeTurbe Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 31/01/2017 at 1:08 AM, Therese1895 said: There's a wonderful Carmel in Alençon. They say the Latin Mass and have 1990 Constitutions. They have been in contact with the FSSP and the JMJ Carmels and may soon be starting (if they haven't already) to say the 1938 Carmelite rite breviary instead of the Latin one that they have been saying. Highly recommended! Mmmh, the Carmel in Alençon also have associated itself with a cult in the South of France. Basically, in the 80's, a nun was elected as prioress of her Carmel in Belgium. She acted like a cult leader until she was asked by the Vatican to leave Religious Life because of how dangerous she was. But then, she founded a pseudo-Carmel in Simacourbes, calling themselves carmelite while they were not, and then the Carmel in Alençon accepted them as a foundation, giving legitimity to a very dangerous woman. http://www.la-croix.com/Urbi-et-Orbi/Actualite/France/Soupcons-derives-sectaires-carmel-Simacourbe-2016-10-24-1200798506 (you can use google translate to understand). Also, I don't see what is good in not reforming after Vatican II. The Council asked communities to reform, not to never change their Constitutions !
NadaTeTurbe Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 An english list of carmel in France : http://www.service-des-moniales.cef.fr/en/categorie/order-en/order-carmelites-en/ I know people who entered here : http://www.service-des-moniales.cef.fr/en/carmel-of-the-holy-mother-of-god-at-lectoure/
graciandelamadrededios Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Chiquitunga said: I was over there last year and was able to visit Alencon Carmel. They make so many beautiful sacramentals, etc., http://carmel-alencon.fr (new website I believe) I received the grace to visit the tomb of Madre Maravillas too, and some Carmels she founded. I almost do not want to post about it though, because I feel a little too spoiled to have gone... Our Lord knows I really needed the graces and encouragement from that trip! "Lo que Dios quiera, como Dios quiera, cuando Dios quiera!" You may be interested in this Carmel, http://www.kirkedge.org.uk Wow, Chiqui! Its great to hear you've been Carmel hopping! I wish I could do the same but I cannot afford to travel abroad! Though, when I was younger, I was able to visit Manila, Lipa, Baguio and San Pablo Carmel in the Philippines. Alencon Carmel seems lovely and very conservative. Nice website! Edited February 8, 2017 by graciandelamadrededios
graciandelamadrededios Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 On 1/30/2017 at 7:08 PM, Therese1895 said: There's a wonderful Carmel in Alençon. They say the Latin Mass and have 1990 Constitutions. They have been in contact with the FSSP and the JMJ Carmels and may soon be starting (if they haven't already) to say the 1938 Carmelite rite breviary instead of the Latin one that they have been saying. Highly recommended! Also all of (Saint) Mother Maravillas' Carmels are incredible!!! They really fought to hold onto the traditions and to get the same Constitution that OHM wrote when they were wanting to change. (The only changes that the 1990 had is that some references to Canon Law are updated and it is now optional to pray for the health of King Philip of Spain ) Look up her life to find them- Avila, Madrid, etc. I have a copy of the 1990 Constitutions. The 1990 text is basically the Alcala Text with some articles suppressed since it no longer has juridical value and are now obsolete. The 1990 text also added several chapters to cover the provisions of the New Code of Canon Law.
Therese1895 Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 49 minutes ago, graciandelamadrededios said: I have a copy of the 1990 Constitutions. The 1990 text is basically the Alcala Text with some articles suppressed since it no longer has juridical value and are now obsolete. The 1990 text also added several chapters to cover the provisions of the New Code of Canon Law. How did you get it? Just curious. I remember that we never publicly published it because it really has to be lived, not just read. Research? I want that project! Thanks for clarifying my over-simplistic summary! That was one of our inside jokes- King Philip.
graciandelamadrededios Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Therese1895 said: How did you get it? Just curious. I remember that we never publicly published it because it really has to be lived, not just read. Research? I want that project! Thanks for clarifying my over-simplistic summary! That was one of our inside jokes- King Philip. I got it for research purposes. I have an on going research regarding cloistered / monastic life of men women.
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